Wow this topic derailed faster than… Wait I can’t finish that thought. Not language under 13 should see.
@ISD thanks for all the hard volunteer work.
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That is old, and never was actually true in the first place…
Whilst EVE felt like a pvp paradise for quite a few years, still can do at times, it never truly was… the infrastructure and inherent safety of things like npc stations undermine that completely - the whole notion of industry, npcs and missions help undermine that still further - and the development of EVE, both by the player base, and the response to that over time by CCP marks EVE as an empire/trading game - more so today than at any time in the past…
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Can i use this line if something ccp releases doesn’t conform to my views?
Of course you can, but the evidence is there and always has been to support the view I just stated - just because you can quote a pvp reference, doesn’t make it intrinsically true, you do know that right?
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So why bother arguing the point?
By that standard eve is neither a trading game, nor a sandbox nor anything because no evidence is good enough.
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I propose we return to the original point of the thread: ISD Appreciation / Ways CCP Could Further Empower ISD
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Oh dear, oh dear oh dear oh dear… wow even… /hugs - you need some
I suppose it’s my own fault for trying to have a discussion…
ISD Appreciation / Ways CCP Could Further Empower ISD
No “last words”
please and thank you
I disagree with the motion - I don’t find ISD actions consistent, transparent or fair-minded - so don’t give them any more powers…
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OK, you win!
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You just said a ccp source wasn’t the truth even at the time of writing…
And apparently i need hugs…
Do you see what i mean by people who skirt the line of personal attacks?
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and that’s just your opinion, while I’ve had a few instances with them, I still think they need some more power on the forums so CCP doesn’t have to step in as head of babysitters, when the babysitters have no power.
Absolutely 
I can point to examples to support my opinion, but it is just my opinion in the end
Here, some CCP quotes from the front page:
EVE Online is a community-driven spaceship MMO
Space exploration, immense PvP and PvE battles and a thriving player economy in an ever-expanding sandbox
Participate in many in-game professions and activities, including war, politics, piracy, trading, and exploration
So what can we ascertain from those statements?
Hold up. I got a new quote for this;
I don’t ascertain from that information that eve ISN’T a pvp sandbox. That to me sounds like it is.
seriously can we stop arguing over whether or not eve is a ■■■■■■■ sandbox??? and stay on ■■■■■■■ topic.
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I think we found something else to talk about - although debating skills need some development, it’s almost a start…
Should probably have stopped at 
but sometimes you just have to keep checking 
Back to you and your thread