“bittervets”
They called me a bittervet when I was like 5 weeks into the game.
Ngl, felt good.
Then your just bitter 
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To be bitter I would have to be unhappy. I’m not - I like the game and am really enjoying the NS experience I am having.
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If I ever did become bitter I would simply stop playing and do something else. I definitely would not spam forums with nonsensical waffle.
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At least you’re honest about the fact that you want to buff highsec farming for your own benefit.
Highsec is superior to nullsec in every way, problem is highsec needs to organize.
Highsec is never going to organize because highsec is mostly farmer trash. The people who are willing to organize and put effort into the game leave highsec ASAP, leaving only the people who are too lazy and/or weak to do anything but mindless zero-risk farming.
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- To be bitter I would have to be unhappy. I’m not - I like the game and am really enjoying the NS experience I am having.
- If I ever did become bitter I would simply stop playing and do something else. I definitely would not spam forums with nonsensical waffle.
My concern is for the people who leave, I would rather they stay, hence why I post.
Oh look, the farmer trash doesn’t understand the concept of inflation. Surprise, surprise…
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At least you’re honest about the fact that you want to buff highsec farming for your own benefit.
Umm yes? And when nullsec wants nullsec buffed for their own benefit its a problem now, or your ok with that because they are ‘better’?
Highsec is never going to organize because highsec is mostly farmer trash. The people who are willing to organize and put effort into the game leave highsec ASAP, leaving only the people who are too lazy and/or weak to do anything but mindless zero-risk farming.
I disagree, we are slowly starting to advocate for our own benefit, this is good because we are the majority of the game.
Not sure who this “we” is tbh. So far I just see one dunce and his forum-alt…
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Nullbear farmer trash is still farmer trash, and the last thing EVE needs is more buffs to nullsec farming. And CCP should be ashamed of themselves for giving in to the nullbear whiners and reversing the removal of local. But the fact that one set of farmer trash needs to STFU doesn’t mean that you are any better.
I disagree, we are slowly starting to advocate for our own benefit, this is good because we are the majority of the game.
You are spamming lots of whine threads, I see no actual organization or potential to do anything but whine. Even if you succeed in getting CCP to buff your farming in a desperate attempt to keep your subscription money you’re still farmer trash that will be incapable of doing anything but mindlessly farming your inane PvE content until you get bored enough to quit.
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As opposed to the blue blob encrusted long term members of the CSM who use their members as lobbyists and buy their votes?
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No, that’s exactly what’s happening here too.
On a per capita basis hisec is safe, certainly safer than anywhere else in the game; population density is always taken into account when considering such metrics. A city can have many times the crime of a rural village, and still be safer than the rural village simply because the population density reduces the chance of being a victim of crime.
IIRC hisec accounts for circa 75% of the population, leaving 25% of the population spread between null, low and whspace. If hisec destruction accounted for greater than 75% of all destruction, then you would have a point; last time I checked it was well under 50%.
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I remember the old devblog about destruction back in 2011, and how the numbers for high sec were skewed because of all the Condors popping in tutorial missions lol.
Ahh got it, it’s the . at the end, without it it’s a 404
That’s weird, it works for me.
Google " YOU PEOPLE REALLY DO LOVE BLOWING UP SPACESHIPS".
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Let’s be fair, High sec does face a decent amount of loss no matter how you try and spin it. Per capita it is safer than Null but not by any significant order of magnitude, and given the lack of capital ships it’s amazing that it even gets anywhere near close on total value. It doesn’t need nerfs on average, just on the outliers income wise, like… Oh, ECs that just got nerfed.
Some areas of highsec income could use massive buffs without breaking anything. Like oh, lvl 1 and 2 missions which would also benefit NPC null and lowsec. 3s and 4s would still be better income, but it would kickstart anyone who falls back that far and new players.
So… compulsive farmers aside, it is far more complex and nuanced than most people spin it to be. Now… Of course I don’t support Naari Mk 2 here.
@Merin_Ryskin You might want to consider a lot of highsec players are not farmers but simply don’t have large or reliable time to invest into space like null, which is not suited to someone with irregular or limited playtime due to the need to constantly defend structures and the like. And ease up on the blanket insults. Insults lose value if spread too wide, rather than aimed at particular self interested farmers.
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I invest like 30 minutes a day, maybe an hour or two on weekends.
You don’t need “large or reliable time” to invest in nullsec. This is a common misunderstanding. It’s also spread by idiots who tried to join high activity / high requirement corporations, and then realized they weren’t cut out for it, and started a salt campaign about how ever nullsec corporation demands hours upon hours of time.
There are plenty of corporations that do not require you to go on fleets, and those that do are very lenient. Iirc, most corporations in Goons that require activity really only require one fleet a month that you can fulfill in half an hour on a weekend.
So. You ‘only’ invest 5 to 7 hours a week.
And regard that as a very low investment. Thanks for making my point for me.
A lot of players don’t actually invest that much time into EVE.
And irregular play times make it hard to socially connect with a null group, well not just a null group but any group.
Note I’m not saying that these people deserve all the rewards either, if you live in high sec where a very casual and irregular play style is easy of course you will make less isk to some degree, but it is a reality that a lot of people are not involved in null wh etc for other reasons than being risk adverse.
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Ok, so wait.
Are you suggesting that CCP should change the game and alter its activities to cater to people who don’t even play EVE Online for 5 hours in an entire week? That’s who we should be designing and catering the game for?
Do you even take the moment to think about what you’re talking about?
This kind of trash krab mentality of, “I AM ENTITLED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE ENOUGH ISK TO PLEX MYSELF WHEN I ONLY PLAY IN HIGHSEC FOR 2 HOURS A WEEK!” is such a fuckingdisappointment to see from people who I believe are supposed to be fully grown functional adults. Holy crap.
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“people who barely play at all should receive the same rewards as people who play a lot”
Wut?
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Uh, no.
Did you bother taking a moment to read what I was replying to with the part of my post you answered.
I was replying to calling everyone who lives in highsec a trash farmer, rather than focusing on certain individuals who are actual trash farmers.
I am NOT asking CCP to change everything, and I was very clear on that.
If you only play 2 hours a week, then alpha or subscribe for sure. No one in any space should expect to plex on that.
Seriously, try reading before raging.
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