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Words cannot describe how unenjoyable this experience was for a new player.
How has tidi not been addressed in 15+ years? Why are timers not effected by server crashes?
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I mean someone used same tactic back in the days, 0 complaints there.
And btw: i would use the same stuff to suicide-smartbomb as many enemies as possible.
If CCP knows about the issue and will not fix neither modules not servers⌠wellâŚ
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Oh, so now youâre done bitching about dumb â â â â from 2012 and instead resort to ad hominem-arguments. Cool beans.
Chemoing fleets is all the rage, so this was to be expected. Note that it was an imperium fleet that ate â â â â to smartbombs.
It sucks pretty bad man, hope you had ample supply of beer / stronger stuff.
Structure timers have never been affected by TiDi, and as far as Iâve heard itâs pretty hard for CCP to change them to follow the TiDi as well. I wouldnât count on this changing anytime soon.
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CCP does not reimburse large scale player conflicts.
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Can somebody explain why the timer keeps running if the server goes down irregularly?
Iâd imagine theyâd do something like adding the time the server was offline to the timer in case something like this happens.
there you go
They are for small ones. But not for big battles where you bring 2 times our numbers and use tactics that increase TiDi.
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Actually hereâs a nice and easy idea: Can CCP automatically disable burst jammers and target spectrum breakers after a certain threshold of players or TiDi level? Smartbombs at least have a legitimate use but I doubt anyoneâs strategies would be ruined by the removal of those two modules.
Yeah,
So goons brought this up the last time this happened⌠when they were attacking a Panfam keepstar and the node crashed.
Basically, iirc, the timer is not tied to the node time and is instead tied to the real clock. This is necessary because something or another breaks if you tie the structure timer to Tidi. The timer WAS paused while the node was down, but as soon as the node is back it resumed. There is no âfairâ way to decide when the timer would start again after a node crash⌠you either do it as soon as it comes back, or you⌠pick an arbitrary time? There is no good solution.
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Best part is that NC and pets told us to adapt when we were on the attacking side and their keeps got saved by the timer being in RT. Strange how they find it wrong now 
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Rendering game mechanics and modules useless because a server canât handle them isnât something any gaming developer should be proud of, especially if you already have a system in place to prevent server crashes.
Not using fighters or burst modules isnât an option at all.
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This can not be done for one reason: if CCP will go this way then CCP will need(eventually) micro-script a lot of things in EVE for the sake of whatever. Restriction here, restriction there⌠game will become their playground, not ours.
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The other problem which nobody seems to be recognising is that they rolled back the server too. Ships that were safe and KS damage progress that had been made had been reversed.
So not only did they fail to set the structure timer to something that was fair, they reversed time (and damage done to the keepstar by a large amount).
That happens everytime this happens.
At the very least, it doesnât pick sides.
Also, the keepstar did not have damage undone. I was on grid, and it was exactly the same before as after. There were ships that had died that appeared, for a short time, to come back to life but eventually died anyhow.
Goons bitched about this when it happened to us, and nothing changed. Donât expect anything to come of this.
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Agreed, when the server died i was on grid attempting to lock a rokh. when the server came back up i was warped to the astra, which took time to warp back down. by the time i did keepstar was almost fully repaired with only a few seconds left. WTF Gives?
There are limits to everything in real life. Server power is not infinite. Even with the best of the best Zen2 epyc ones there are limitations. We can load the server more than any available CPU on the planet can handle. That means that we have to take that into account. CCP can upgrade the server (last upgrade they posted about was ages ago so maybe we can get 20-30% more IPC with newest ZEN2s) but that is not infinite. We will just cram in more people (NC and co had twice our numbers in this fight).
At some point mitigation of TiDi involving correct doctrines and limiting amount of people in the system are your only realistic options. I guess you can also cry on the internet about CCP not having magical servers or ability to break physical and mathematical limits but that will not get you anywhere.
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What a load of â â â â honestly. This just broke a lot of spirit.
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