Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread

People asked for plex prices to come down, and CCP did the math - scare off all these carebears trying to plex with easy isk, and plex prices are gonna come down! With less bot aspirants in the game, we might even see some improvements to tidi performance!

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People who are leaving : Keep your stuff. Why log in again at all? If you are determined to ragequit and throw away all your stuff, do it right :

Steps :slight_smile:

  1. Sell ALL your stuff.
  2. Buy a few Skill Extractors
  3. Extract. When you run out of ISK for extrators, sell a full one.
  4. When you have extracted all your SP, sell it. Highest bidder, instant sell.
  5. Now you have a char with no skills. Buy plex with All your ISK.
  6. Trash the PLEX.
  7. Quit your corp and roles.
  8. Log Out , Log Back In
  9. Biomass
  10. Wait 10 hours
  11. Complete Biomass.

That will show up as a proper ragequit, and might even startle CCP if it happens more than a few times.

EDIT : Don’t use PLEX for anything, just trash it. And don’t buy the extractors in the New Eden Store. Use ISK, you won’t need it again. Also, if you have stuff/ISK left over, give to a scammer in Jita. It confuses the crap out of them.

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Just to clarify, step 6 involves sending the PLEX to me so that I can dispose of it properly.

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Indeed.

Slamming d-scan in low is a requirement, as there are no bubbles and there is usually a neutral and/or war target in system with you. No matter what you are doing.

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Uhm. Yes it will? In fact of course it will. Since borders will need to be somewhat better defended or watched and industrial pilots will be in more need of protection from small gangs and solo pilots. Unless your one of those null groups who pretend they don’t need a significant indy presence to remain relevant. Bigger fleets will in fact be discouraged however since getting reliable intel on potential targets in foreign systems will be slower which puts your fleet at a far higher risk while waiting.

Also it’ll be far easier to bait now that hunters won’t be able to check zkill via local. So get those cyno proc ready!

a) Yep, so what every time a sig pops up the bot has to dock or investigate what sig then decide it is a threat or not. Possible to code parts of it but shitload of work and to code threat assessment 
 not possible yet.
b) Yep, but you could use a Recon not showing up on Dscan at all.
c) Yep, that is the biggest problem but a Recon can be fitted for hyperspatial (less time to show on grid) and insta lock (below 2sec)
The perfect way would be, get a no show Recon into the system, check the WHs entrance distance to the bot, get a cloaky insta lock Bomber to catch the bot. Bots using Supers have to be catched via bubble on the warp out to another anomalie or to their cita. This will only work of course outside Dscan range of the bot.
d) Yep, but changing systems is a lot of hassle again in coding that. Most bots in automated mode as of right now are stationary in system. You need the bot owner to do that.

All in all bots are f***** not entirely but their efficiency will suffer a lot. Truly f****** are AFK Krabs. All good things.
Why you think there are very few bots in WH systems :wink:

Frankly as a wormholer myself the idea that null groups cannot continue their abusive mining practices during this test makes me laugh. Just gotta set out gate watchers a couple more systems out and your exactly as safe as before.

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Oh you’ll know when they catch you. :upside_down_face:

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Yep. Gonna need some impressive coding and fitting wizardry to avoid easily getting a your botting carrier caught by a Falcon/Rook and have the fighters perma jammed.

We have a saying in Wormholes. For every breath you take there are 27 cloaked Tengu right next to you.

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GOOD BYE TO THOSE UNSUBBING BOTS!

Nobody needs you and stop crying to CCP as you were paying cash for subbing.

Make this permanent pls!

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Very positive change - why has it taken so long?

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Nullsec should at least be more dangerous than Lowsec thats for sure.

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You do know that system wide cyno inihibitors exist now, do you? Yes, gates will need to be watched. But that will be done mostly in a system where a mining op or some other industrial activity is going on that needs to be protected. The system will be jammed and the gates will be bubbled. Other systems? Deserted. Good luck finding those fights.

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See now. I don’t agree with a full drop (like i’m saddled with in wormholes) or no drop like in K space. It’d be best if it was a loot fairy type chance what drops and what gets saved. Like for a normal kill except what would be destroyed is dropped and what would drop is saved.

All the bots who are rage quitting

plex price’s might be affordable again
\o/ CCP it’s like u started caring all the sudden

Nullsec is supposed to be dangerous this idea has been around for over 10 years but CCP never wanted to upset the big alliances

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You haven’t cancelled four accounts :yum:

What they are trying to achieve has been the topic of discussion for years!

Let’s not find out how botters works let’s screw over everyone gg

So wh space is tactical for this reason null space is not wh space stop the game giving cheaters bots the information they need to operate. Sounds like silly changes and ccp need to focus on retaining players sure analysts can check active ratting systems for ratting bots that work allday look at frequency of command boom. I dislike this change you should have a ihub upgrade for it but not force it

It’s sad to see what is happening in this game each and every move literally makes people stop playing I don’t understand this business model I don’t understand the concept of destroy something that was working

If you actually want your game to grow and get subs maybe you should actually look at what you’re doing right here and realize this was a reason the subs are declining

if people want to PVP they’re going to PVP some people don’t want to hardcore PVP and you force it down their throats.

oh look your how far the subs have declined. To think at one point this game actually competed with Wow had merchandise in stores

some people enjoy playing asteroids and blowing up rocks the very people pushing this doll have forgot the basic concept of what Eve is. a sandbox .

the first thing you think of when you’re playing in a sandbox the things you can do such as build stuff this mechanic right here is the antithesis of a sandbox

Wormholes were supposed to be the next big thing and guess what they aren’t that’s why you stop doing anything with wormholes

if only you’d invest some effort into actually making the game have quality of life instead of taking away quality of life fixing game mechanics let’s support every aspect of Eve is a quality of life increase specifically making it so only one aspect of the game is forced is the direction you guys have been going for years I never seen so little active logins in this game used to be such a great game

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They dun goofed, declaring war on CCP. Consequences will never be the same.

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