Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread

I disagree. Mining support ships have a huge bonus to tractor beams and there isnt much you can use it for anything but pulling jetcans. Highest yield but paper-thin Hulks have lowest ore holds of all the exhumers - they would have made no sense to use if not for jetcan mining.

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Blackout experiment failed. Can we have Hi-Sec with no concord experiment please?

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huh? sorry but all the time i been playing this game the only ones i see crying are the ā€œpvpersā€ becuse they cant kill things if they outnumber or mostly vs a non afk ratter/minner loolā€¦

Sources?

Being wrong is a recurring state you are in.

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CCP has at several conferences shown the statsā€¦ almost all kills in Eve are by a very tiny fraction of the player base-- I tend to believe it because itā€™s been true in every null alliance Iā€™ve live in and born out in every alliance zkill board Iā€™ve checked. Good, bad or whatever most of eve doesnā€™t prefer pvpā€“and now this huge majority thatā€™s so risk-averse and been messing up the game with overproduction is going nuts because a tiny fraction is for the first time in years a viable threat.

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Well I donā€™t see you backing anything up with concrete evidence, we are both giving opinion and conjecture till the reality of what is to take place unfolds it can go any number of a 100 ways.

Just check Zkill when it comes back upā€¦ check any alliance with hundreds of players and youā€™ll easily confirm that the vast majority of kills are done by a tiny %.

Looks ok to me.

Based on the last hour stats:

Stat Highsec Lowsec Nullsec Total
Systems with player loss 141 73 198 412
Ships Killed 626 162 625 1413
Pods Killed 83 74 355 512
NPCs Killed 124405 10380 50781 185566

More systems in nullsec with pvp and ratting way down in null (it normally has about the same NPC kills as highsec in any hour period.

Success in my book.

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Players donā€™t have to PVP , in most advertisements for the game it says clearly , you can PVP , PVE , Mine , make friends work together, nowhere does it say you have to play exclusively PVP , point out to me where CCP said everyone in game has to PVP.

Every time you undock in in EVE you risk PVP , some people are just better at it then others, and that is the difference between a real hunter, and a Ganker , if you want to get the kills if you want to be the god of death in space sharpen your skills and make a name for yourself, no one is stopping you .

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Agree 100%. But can u please istead link where CCP stated Players donā€™t have to PVP neither in zones wich are designed to be the most rich and contested in game too?

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Sorry forgot DANGEROUS

Exactly. Or work together to be a viable threat, scouting eyes to report gate jumps, get some of those pvper to roam local space to find perspective pvp fleets, keep structures manned, when danger is higher have cheaper ships to fly with backups-- small groups in null are already adapting and having a lot of fun doing so. Failing all that players can live anywhere as well.

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There is no such comment made by CCP , but it is expected as I just stated above anytime any place you undock you run the risk of PVP , in combat, Suicide ganks, Roams., and so on , PVP just happens, if you belong to a larger Corp they can offer protection , you pay taxes and the chances of direct PVP are reduced. It is a choice , you can willingly PVP or try to avoid it, but you cant always avoid it.

with this event CCP managed to bring back people in masses. In my corp alone I see people returning who have been winning for years now. Something non of their stupid new ship introductions or pve events could do. I doubt that null sec will be ever safe again for botters and afk miners.

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I have always said to DEATH TO THE BOTS , and hell the afk miners there the perfect Target for PVP Hunters, but I still think your expectations for a year long blackout will not be realized , but please bring chaos havoc and destruction someone will usually be up for the challenge to meet you in combat.

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Agree again. So the whole point , wich drive CCP to test this, is that MAYBE the most rich dangerous areas now are just slightly or even more safer than so called HIGH sec. Why people dont realize this simple thing? mystery.

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It is only safe in null sec with corps because people really work together to make something better, for the most part, Those rich regions spark endless wars as well.

You want people to focus actively for 20m/hour?

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Yesā€¦ sure. not because anyone can just warp out if anything pop out in localā€¦ even soloing. Or being so protected by cap umbrellas that null region are in the last year the most stagnating parts of eveā€¦ sure

I do , I use a Raven forlorn hubs bust nearly 20 mill an hour in bounties, I can do 3 in a hour, then get the salvage that adds even more, most of wich I give to my corp to break down . So 60 mil an hour not a bad wage. But if you fly AFK in a VNI and you get blown up well that is on you for the most part.