Looking for a L4 mission Raven fit

[Colez_Noctume]

I tried expirementing with a couple of fits.

It’s not as impactful as I was hoping for, even tried RHML fit.

Anyone know if there is a current meta raven fit with T2’s and cruise missiles for L4 missions?

Futhermore can someone give me two fits:

The first with T1 cruise missile, since it takes like a month to train into T2 and T2 ammo.

The second is a full T2 build. Budget would be between 250 and 500 mill.

I’m primarily looking for a warp 100km away, and cruise missile large targets down, while any small targets within 30km get droned down. I really prefer both a MJD and afterburner. (I think this is called dual prop)

Some of the fits below don’t have that, and I’m wondering if the Raven is effective without distance between it and it’s targets?

Currently found these builds while searching these forums:

[Raven, *Simulated Raven Fitting]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Missile Guidance Enhancer II
Co-Processor II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Pith X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery
Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier
Large Micro Jump Drive

Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II

Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
Large Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard II
Large Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard II

Hobgoblin II x5
Federation Navy Hammerhead x5

[Raven, Le Liang]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
[empty low slot]

Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Thermal Dissipation Field II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Republic Fleet Target Painter
[empty med slot]

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Small Tractor Beam II

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Flare Catalyst I

Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5

[Raven, Rayven]
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Signal Amplifier II

Gist C-Type Large Shield Booster
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Cap Recharger II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Cap Recharger II
Target Painter II

Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II

Hammerhead II x6

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

[Iceacid_Frostpacker]

From Hateless_Gaming Lvl 4 Mission chat channel in game

[Raven Navy Issue, Raven Navy Issue]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Missile Guidance Enhancer II

Pith B-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Gist C-Type 500MN Microwarpdrive
Missile Guidance Computer II
Missile Guidance Computer II
Target Painter II

Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II

Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

Warrior II x4
Acolyte II x5
Vespa II x5

Caldari Navy Nova Cruise Missile x1560
Caldari Navy Mjolnir Cruise Missile x1824
Nova Fury Cruise Missile x2696
Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile x2084
Inferno Fury Cruise Missile x1216
Missile Precision Script x2

[M_Cincinnatus]

@Colez_Noctume

It’s not as impactful as I was hoping for

A problem here may be how you define “impactful”.

You mean against small targets, as large missiles can struggle against them? Or just not enough dps in general?

[Gleb_Koskov]

I don’t think you need that much tank except on some situations, use passive hardeners, and add a nanofiber or inertial stab for faster travel.

[Anderson_Geten]

ok so

Why the raven ?

The main trait of the raven is its range. Fury cruise can go 170km. This gives access to a nice possibility, that is, range tanking : you kill the rats from farther than they can touch you.
however, a few issues with that

1. too slow . 141 m/s means you get caught by even BS rats.
2. not enough targeting range.
3. very small shield buffer. less than hyperion, dominix. However it’s not an issue as you take less damage from range, but it means you need to manage the range.
4. no application on frigates

the 1. can be fixed by using a MJD. Jump 100km. Then use an AB to keep some range.
the 2. can be fixed by using a sebo, range scripted.
The 4. can be fixed by using small drones/sentries to intercept incoming frigates. warden canshoot far enough to one shot the small frigs while they burn towards you, and acolyte navy can track and kill pesky “webifier drones”. You may also have the use of a heavy stasis grappler to help your drones.

example

[Raven, *pve sniper]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Signal Amplifier II

100MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner
Large Micro Jump Drive
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
EM Ward Field II
Heavy Stasis Grappler II
Sensor Booster II

Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Auto Targeting System II

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I



Caldari Navy Warden x2

Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile x162
Inferno Precision Cruise Missile x1000
Inferno Fury Cruise Missile x2162
Targeting Range Script x1
Nova Fury Cruise Missile x2000
Scourge Fury Cruise Missile x2000
Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile x2000
Nova Precision Cruise Missile x1000
Mjolnir Precision Cruise Missile x1000
Scourge Precision Cruise Missile x1000

the auto targeting is just to have more targets.
the sig amp is to use navy missiles at their full range.
The em ward field should be replaced by another specific hardener vs other rats than em.

[dewk]

Just trick i learned was to increase missile explosion velocity and decrease explosion radius will increase damage done than adding a 4th or 3rd Ballistic Control System, as the smaller the explosion sphere more damage is focused on the target, it also helps against smaller targets to.

So your explosion radius is smaller that target signature then possible damage is 100%+, if other way around the damage is less.

So even one Missile Guidance Enhancement will provide a better benefit than a 3rd or 4th BCS, and a Missile Guidance Computer with Precision Script is even better, use of a Target Paint has limited benefit with missiles, if using drones attacking same target then TP is worth it, but if drones aren’t on the same target a MGC with scripts are miles better, due to not just thr better focused damage from Precision script, but when needed range increase of missiles with the Range Script.

Just something to think on.

[Anderson_Geten]

@dewk

So your explosion radius is smaller that target signature then possible damage is 100%+, if other way around the damage is less.

no.

@dewk

So even one Missile Guidance Enhancement will provide a better benefit than a 3rd or 4th BCS

no.

@dewk

use of a Target Paint has limited benefit with missiles,

no.

[F1sTDaCuFFs_2]

1. Who uses no prop mod?
2. The baseline tgt range is 90km without skills.
3. Use mid slots
4. Dont know what youre talking about, it can smash frigs with cruises

[Anderson_Geten]

@F1sTDaCuFFs_2

Who uses no prop mod?

that’s exactly what I said.

@Anderson_Geten

the 1. can be fixed by using a MJD. Jump 100km. Then use an AB to keep some range.

Still propmod is a choice.

@F1sTDaCuFFs_2

The baseline tgt range is 90km without skills.

and the range of cruise missiles is way more. Also when you mjd you are much further

@F1sTDaCuFFs_2

Use mid slots

Which you have infinite number ?

@F1sTDaCuFFs_2

Dont know what youre talking about, it can smash frigs with cruises

lol.

[JC_Mieyli]

nvm i just remembered who you are lol
waste of time

[Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras]

@Colez_Noctume Rayven is actually my fitting that I use. What makes it the most expensive is the Large Shield booster. You could modify that whole fit to be either T1 ammo with some T2 mods, and Exchange the Booster for a less expensive, like Large Shield Booster. and I do keep a prop mod for when I fly further out.

But normally, for the few missions that require you to fly out so many km, I fly out to the location as i’m smashing all the ships, switching between precision and fury t2 missiles as necessary. Using Precision takes down cruisers and smaller with ease.