it’s definitely more worth it than hijacking other people’s posts.
you don’t need to complete them. Also as I said you are off topic.
Rattlesnake probably the quickest to learn skills and be fairly effective. Micro jump drive and a micro warp drive to get around. Sentry drones for long range. Heavy drones for larger ships, and carry some light drones if you get small ships around you. I use a passive tank, rarely get much damage when keeping range and the damage out put is high on a rattlesnake. Kill things off before they can do much to ya anyway.
Heavy assult cruisers are nice, but will take much longer to learn skills. Merauders are nice too, but again lots of skill training.
Yes and it limits you to one daily mission per agent, while the mission is available (not a farming condition).
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You just can’t offer a solution if the subject isn’t clear. Required fits for hi-sec L4, Epic Arc, simple low-sec L4, low-sec FW L4 missions are different, considering you going for full clear, speed run or Blitzing.
- Yet other people id it.
- this is off topic again
Plus your answer has no relation with what I told you : you said he wanted mission AGAINST gallente while he said he wanted mission FOR gal. So you misunderstood his question, which makes your following answers our of topic.
His question was:
This
was answered as: Tristan, Domi, Ratl and Marauders. Check my first post here.
Now you confused me again with “AGAINST gallente” and “FOR gal” like
My argument is it’s important what kind of mission you are doing in which mod. He mentioned nothing about it’s Gallente, anti-Gallente, for Tag-farmin, hi- or low-sec. In my opinion, Tristan can be out of topic, in my opinion, a Marauder in low-sec is just a joke. Overall, only our dispute is the out of topic theme here.
He mentioned it IS gallente.
It’s the title of the topic.
FFS read before you answer.
This is not a dispute. You ARE off topic, I tell you why. And then you keep spilling nonsense without even checking if it was of any interest.
And my argument is that people don’t want to give too much information on the forum because it’s where a lot of trolls come to find people to harass - in the case it was AGAINST gallente, which you assumed but he did not affirm so this is a misunderstanding from you.
Rattlesnake, sentries and cruise missiles.
Frigates will web and kill small drones and heavies can’t hit them very often, so use MJD to get range and then kill the frigs with Warden drones as soon as they are in range
This thread got jacked up pretty bad, but I still like tengu the best, or any other t3. Depending on how you fit the ship, it could cost about the same as a rattler. I imagine salvaging missions after the rattler is not optimal, as everything gets spread out, but I could be wrong. Marauders I don’t know. I think marauders had the stupid tractor beam bonus before the noctis existed, they are kinda overpriced and pointless now.
[Proteus, Proteus fit]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor EM Hardener II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
10MN Afterburner II
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Medium Cap Battery II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
[Empty High slot]
Medium Nanobot Accelerator II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Proteus Core - Augmented Fusion Reactor
Proteus Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Proteus Offensive - Hybrid Encoding Platform
Proteus Propulsion - Hyperspatial Optimization
Hobgoblin II x5
Warrior II x5
Armor Explosive Hardener II x1
Armor Kinetic Hardener II x1
Armor Thermal Hardener II x1
This is how I fit a proteus, except my fit has some more faction stuff on it. Pyfa says this fit costs about 488m, so it’s on par with pirate faction battleships. The worst thing about this fit is that you’ll have to deal with crappy geometry found in mission structures. The best thing is, with the webber, you can shoot down frigates with your guns. It’s very satisfying.
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Alphas can use an effective battlecruiser for level 4’s. Your dps will be low and things may take a while though (or run in gangs).
Alternatively, invest in a soct battleship (takes no space ship command skills to fly) and specialise an alpha char in large weaponry and drones.
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Even with T2 guns Battlecruiser will lack tank, not only DPS. Praxis with T2 rapid heavy missile launchers and faction large drones is max DPS/tank alpha can have untill he skills up to Rattlesnake.
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Drake, myrm, brutix, cyclone and prophecy can tank level 4’s with alpha skills.
Learning to manage agro will help as well.
Myrm sucks without sentries though (as does a rattler)
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Darling, it’s no need to start this storm of nonsense again. The topic has a generic description. For me, it may mean: available missions, a guide for missions, suggestions, bug notices and many other things.
More accurate is the question: “What is the better ship (and its module fit) for run 4th level gallente security missions ?”.
My first post to this thread was generic also:
All L4 security missions are randomly equal for all Empire factions. So, the available or known fits are good more or less. Your performance there depends by how good are your character skills, how expensive is your fit and how well you know the mission objective. For example, you can perform the L4 burner missions with random level 4-5 combat skills, but be ready to lose ships time to time - it’s a blade runner mission mode being without perfect skills.
Since this point, all our conversations are just a dispute and our guess what he wants, which is informative but out of topic. Is he doing missions for Gallente agents or is he just farming Gallente NPC tags from other agents? I don’t care. I just mentioned that whatever it is, you need different fits for this, based on “how to farm (fast, slow)”, “where (hi- low- or null-sec)” and for “what (ISK, LP, Tags, Reputation, whatever)”. The fit for "What is the better ship…? The suggestions and fits are good, but they can’t be called a “better ship” in all scenarios.
I can’t agree with you. Most members on this forum are trying to be polite and posting helpful suggestions. - Don’t want to post “…too much information…”… lol… What is that? Their Jita social security number or the Ammar THUB apartment number? You can say what kind of content you are going to do. Those, which want to hunt you, already know where to search and, believe me, you can’t be unnoticed there for a long time.
About trolling. I’m not sure who is trolling who. The author isn’t very active to find the solution or to explain in detail what he wants. Maybe it’s a bait thread to troll posters like me. I’m curious to see what will happen here…
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