Market broken

Yes actually, he tends to use logic in his arguments. You on the other hand, use feelings and ignorance.

You keep using that word but you dont know what it means

These are just spikes. They mean the prices went up. And prices move up and down. They can move a lot, but not under stable circumstances. And, yes, sometimes somebody intentionally tries to manipulate the market. This is a legit game play in EVE.

Sometimes there are huge price hikes in a very short amount of time. Like the Trig salvage – which is still high although settled down a bit – ever since about a month ago.

There is always a reason why prices go up or down suddenly. If you pay attention to what’s going on in the game, you will usually know why.


As for the ‘‘increasing spikes’’ that’s just a random increase. Give it enough time, it will go the other way eventually. And if you look at other items you’re not gonna see the same pattern.

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Its a systemic issue that will worsen until for example listing and order change fees are eliminated or CCP stocks the markets.

You are totally right Bakster Kane, we should have fixed NPC Sellorders for every item. Then everyone knows what the price is and you would even have filled markets everywhere. They could for example make every item cost 100 ISK, so even newbros can afford them, equality for all!

That sounds like an awesome idea… where have I seen that before…?

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I know I will probably not get anywhere with this but:
CCP stocking the market will crash the whole game. Items will become, yes, cheap – also called ‘worthless’. Those miners mining the ore for manufacturers to build items/ships in the game no longer have the incentive to mine, because their ore which was used to build stuff will be worthless. Destroying ships will become meaningless, nobody will care if they lose ships. The number and movement of hulls in the game/market will be meaningless because they are just created out of thin air. Killmails will have no value. That’s just a couple of things to mention.

Even if you assign some ‘realistic’ value to the artificially stocked items, say a supercarrier not costing 100isk but 60b, it will just become an empty artificial number churned out by the computer that will have no meaning and no volatility. A super costs 60b because of what happens in the game universe, and not because somebody thought that’s what it should cost.

This game is literally built on a functioning player-driven market. It’s its backbone. You crash it, you might as well pull the plug on the whole thing.

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You don’t even remotely believe he will understand that?

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Nope. But my hope is, that some others who may be confused about this will be less so after reading it.

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Let markets function without CCP intervention, remove or minimize listing and order change fees.

You draw that line by median price not maximum price. And if you do that, there is no increase. It’s pretty much level.

You missed an opportunity to draw that line much steeper!

EVE’s market is in much bigger problems than you already thought!

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Silly me, this is the line I get:

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But you forget the spikes! You cannot forget the spikes!

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The entire game is CCP intervention. They’ve built the game, every aspect of the market from the source of items, the blueprint requirements, the locations.

And those order change fees exist for a good reason. You have never shown interest as to why many things in EVE exist, like those fees, you just wish for it to change without knowing why the game is as it is. Even though people have told you why those fees exist before.

Is it arrogance? Is it a lack of interest? It most certainly is an abundance of stupidity but I wonder what else is the problem here.

The answer might be much simpler: he’s just trolling. :thinking:

:wink:

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It’s possible, I must say he’s a good troll in that case.

If the market isn’t fixed, game changes won’t matter.

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