Need help for Maelstrom fit for L4

[Rarisa_Gasai]

Hi all,

Just returned after a 4 years absence, trying to remembering how this game work & making ISK using the PvE High-Sec content before droping in low/null content.

I recently unlock de L4 mission for SOE and after look at it that not a mission my old Hurricane can stand for so I go for a battleship, the Maelstrom, because I really like the arty turret gameplay.

But it turn out my actual fit on Maelstorm lack of damage to do “big” L4 mission, so I probably miss a point somewhere, even if my skills are not maxed yet.

So I’m here to rethink my fitting.

[Maelstrom, Maelstorm PvE MJD]
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II

X-Large Shield Booster I
Large Micro Jump Drive
Cap Recharger II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Explosive Deflection Field II

1200mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Artillery I
1200mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Artillery I
1200mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Artillery I
1200mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Artillery I
1200mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Artillery I
1200mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Artillery I
1200mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Artillery I
1200mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Artillery I

Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I

Valkyrie I x10

Fusion L x5000
Phased Plasma L x5000
EMP L x5000

I don’t use the X-Large Shield Booster I in continue (not stable), only when I drop below 30% on shield.
And, yeah, T1 drone, I know, I forgot about that when I make it but skills need time so this mistake will be fixed at the end of the week.

In advance, thank for the help.

[Anderson_Geten]

indeed, you do very little DPS. I have 364 with EMP L on your fit.

By adding two compact gyros I reach 469 DPS from turrets.
using RF ammos I get 539 DPS from turrets. It’s still low, but not as bad as the 364 original.

using two invuls and one large cap battery II allows me to have much more ehp regen.

[Knowledgeminer]

Greetings capsuleer. Welcome back and to the forums.

Here’s an alternative fit to give you some ideas to consider. It uses an omni-tank with well balanced resistances across all damage types intended to not have to fit mission specific resists every time, which you may or may not like:

[Maelstrom, Maelstrom - Missions]
Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II
Tracking Enhancer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

100MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner
EM Ward Amplifier II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Tracking Computer II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Large Shield Booster II

1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II

Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Hornet II x5

Depleted Uranium L x4000
Titanium Sabot L x4000
Phased Plasma L x4000
EMP L x4160
Fusion L x4000
Optimal Range Script x1
Tracking Speed Script x1

[SWAGGETTI_delConte]

Boi. 500 dps is no good. If I where you Id rather go with a Macheriel(if u got the isk for it) or cruise missile typhon if u wana stick to minmatar and want to keep range.

Mack

[Machariel, Machariel]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
[empty low slot]
[empty low slot]

Gistum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Gistum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Gist B-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery
Large Micro Jump Drive
100MN Afterburner II

800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
[empty high slot]

Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I

Thats what I use. Ita a bit blingy bot its a beast. Fast, agile and good dps with good falloff.

And the cruise cheap typhon

[Typhoon, Typhoon]
Damage Control II
Large Armor Repairer II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
1600mm Steel Plates II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

Large Micro Jump Drive
Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery
100MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Precision Script
Target Painter II

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Small Tractor Beam I

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Anti-Explosive Pump I

Warden II x4

I dont think arts are good for pve. I pick mack myself coz its fast and has bonus to fallof wich is good for AC.

[Kane_Adestur]

You can also try to use Autocannons on the Maelstrom. They tend to work better in PvE, as you can even hit frigates up to around 20 km (depends on transversal of course).

The fit below tries to extend the Falloff, allowing you to apply your damage earlier (around 50% DPS at first falloff). The MWD is very shiny but it allows you to get in brawl range quickly. Once in range (10-12 km for BS, slightly more for smaller ships) you can turn it off to save cap. Upgrade Guns to T2 if you have the skills.

The thing is: The Machariel is so much better for Brawling. It comes with a sizeable Falloff bonus, it moves fast in subwarp (more than 600 m/s with a shiny AB) and it even warps faster than other battleships, saving time between missions.

The tactic is basically always the same. Move away from incoming frigates in a straight line while you dispatch them. Then turn and engage the bigger ships in brawling range. You can also use drones to get rid of frigates, but beware the Elite frigates, as they will eat your drones.

[Maelstrom, AC PvE]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Gist X-Type 500MN Microwarpdrive
Domination X-Large Shield Booster
Gist X-Type Kinetic Deflection Field
Gist X-Type Thermal Dissipation Field
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery

800mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Repeating Cannon I
800mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Repeating Cannon I
800mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Repeating Cannon I
800mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Repeating Cannon I
800mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Repeating Cannon I
800mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Repeating Cannon I
800mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Repeating Cannon I
800mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Repeating Cannon I

Large Projectile Ambit Extension I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

Caldari Navy Hornet x5
Federation Navy Hobgoblin x5
Federation Navy Hammerhead x5

Phased Plasma L x8000
EMP L x8000
Fusion L x8000

[Rarisa_Gasai]

Thanks alot for your answers, I can now see what I’m doing wrong on my initial fit.

I can’t got for a Macheriel yet, I’m lack of ISK and need some days for learn Gallente skills but I thinking about make it my next short goal ship. Because I don’t train any skill missile other than basic, I think Typhoon will not be on my list before a couple of time. And if I can, I will stick to the turret gameplay. Event if it’s not the most efficient way, if it’s enough efficient to me, I’ll go with it^^

Waiting to go for an other ship, I will try some of change you advised me and give a try to the Autocannons. I will not let my Maelstrom go on waste so fast.

Again, thanks for your advices.

[Aqriue]

There is way to much fitting mods, either the OP has low fitting skills or using the X-Large Shield Booster/MJD which eats into the fitting problems. Loosing the XL Booster would solve most of the problem as a large shield booster is is fine, with 1200mm should fit as sniper plus a sensor booster for range and if you jump out 100km you won’t have a lock plus slow travel time. Avoid the II rigs cause of cost, basic 1 is fine. If you need PG, reactor controls are better and you should be pulsing an XL anyway, cap stab would be over kill with it.