Nerf Ganking Megathread

Calm down Gnosis miner.

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So who do you gank with , clearly not Merin.

Really it’s the same plan we have for our gank targets only the flip side , when I get back to normal eve time (work and real in the way right now) we’ll Carry On Ganking

Dammit Githany, you let the mask slip :roll_eyes:

You meant ‘we’ll Carry On Anti Ganking’, we would never gank :angry:

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Just for the record, I am not Aiko.

No no stopping ganks and generally killing gankers when ever possible and killing ganker supporters by ganking them , which includes , some ice miners , ganker ore miners who use alts to keep belts clear for themselves , scouts , spy’s and snitches ( like Rion was) also anyone who openly supports ganking in hight sec .

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You were unmasked like a Scoobie Doo villain :thinking:

Aiko, or should we say James? Jinkies

Hang on, that’s a lot of ganking.

Are we the baddies?

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No it was not. It was to provide more accurate data from which there could be a start of discussion. Which of course you are unable to partake.

us I literally wrote that “rampant” was an exaggeration. But again, you only take what you deem interesting and ignore everything else. Rotten cherry picking to the core.

No it’s not.
You just are wrong, there is ZERO piracy in WS/NS. Piracy is only in HS and LS.

No. You just are so wrong at logic it’s amazing.
The average player is in jita. Jita has many more times kills that the average. So the average player is in system that has many more time kills than average.
Next average players are in amarr, and other hubs. Same.

You go to stretch, out of context quotes and shortcut at a speed that should be limited by the knowledge of physics. “The average of systems for those data” talks about “the average of systems for those data”, NOT about the average of players in general.
Your opinion is just full of ■■■■.

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No.

The question was : is ganking concentrated in a handful of systems ?
I personally think that “rampant” is an exaggeration as it implies a growth, but maybe there is actually a growth, or a spreading of the activity ?

A way to answer that question is, to find the ganking occurences and count them ; then do something like Gini coefficient - Wikipedia to have a notion of concentration of ganks. Instead of income, we consider ganks and instead of person, we consider system.

Of course several issue :

  1. zkb does not have all kills
  2. it’s not always possible to deduce the kills that are suicide or not. ESI gives the war which makes a kill non-suicide,
  3. it does not take into account the acts of piracy that do not result in a kill. I was victim of many more acts of piracy than I lost ships in HS to piracy.

So I limited to the kills of freighters, JF, exhumers, expedition frig, and barges since those are the less likely to fall into a suspect baiting trap or to be used in an offensive action. However some JF died to criminal tags and/or KR so it’s difficult to accurately filter.

So in short it’s very difficult to have correct data, and the data that was shown by @Scipio_Artelius is just not valuable at all. For example when I removed all the war kills it was like 30% the kills of barges.

What’s more, even with those values (that are bad actually) the number of systems with a kill in the month is increasing while the number of kills is constant so it seems to be basically in decrease for non barges which can be perceived as a “widspread of the activity”
https://imgur.com/OCQfj3n

However it’s still subject to the same issues, in particular that a lot of non-mining non-freighter ships are killed in the hubs by suicide kills - which therefore reduces mechanically the perception of kills.

I think I might have been the first person to use the word. I linked to the definition I intended which simply means “a lot” and I mean that in relation to areas being dubbed “high security” despite piracy happening quite regularly.

In no way did I mean to imply that piracy is expanding. AFAIK, that claim would just be false.

To that I would say yes and no. It depends on what you mean by “concentrated”. More or less concentrated? Yes. No piracy here and there or small pockets around? No. There are.

That was a lot of hot air, just to conclude the same thing.

Just another typical round and round conversation in the absurd as usual.

No, this conclusion has nothing to do with the post. I wrote it before .

Are you also completely unable to read ? Are my post too complex for narrow minded brain ? It looks like, a lot.

Just a typical “I don’t understand so there is nothing to understand” from the usual crowd of brainless sheeps.

That’s why I asked for a definition of concentrated, of “very low”;

But he was not able to bring any definition that would be useful in that context, therefore I just used the average, hoping he could at least understand this notion. Turns out it’s still out of his grasp.

It’s not even Krunning dooper effect, it’s just plain stupidity at this level.

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I run Amarr to Rens a lot. I cannot say I get the sense of rampant piracy there.

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Caldari Space

I dont live in the slums but I do transport crap to Lone Trek and the forge. Its rampant in a couple systems, by whatever you want to measure rampant as, but population density will do that.

“couple systems”.
Uedama, perimeter, Jita, Amarr ? That’s two couples.

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Amarr and Uedama arent in Lonetrek or The Forge

Jita and Perimeter are a couple systems

But yes, I should have said a few.

Certainly not the majority.

Since you transport it’s on the route if you go from Amarr or Rens to there, and it’s in caldari space.

Note I’m not saying it’s “rampant”. I’m saying, it’s widespread, and if people ty to avoid those places with frequent kills, then the ganker will follow them. So yes there is no control over it.

If you want to find another system in lonetrek, you can look here Isanamo | System | zKillboard

Sure its widespread but can you express how to say “I generally go prepared but do not expect to be attacked, and mitigate my chances of being attacked and so both through my own action and my observation of the world around me, I do not agree that there is rampant piracy in High Sec. I know I can go to a place and PROBABLY get attacked, but in my daily travels I find the probability of a pirate attack on my ship in HS to be very very low.”?

Or will that do?