Nerf Ganking Megathread

Its completely unrealistic in EVE however since no two players are the same. It’s not like a round-based BattleRoyale where you go for 100 rounds with always the same starting loadout but one player magically has better weapons and armor.

No it isnt, because Gold Ammo always does more damage per hit. And no non-paying player can get this more-damage. It is P2W because even worse player can kill the better player with less shots.

And in EVE you are not really competing in terms of assets and ISK against other players, you are mostly competing in terms of making good or bad decisions.

1 Like

I loled at that too

Man this feels wierd but if people will just walk into a boxing glove on a spring, they cant blame the spring for boppin em.

2 Likes

They will blame the spring manufacturer, the glove’s owner, the government, the weather, anyone who in their opinion distracted them (even if was not even present at the time), and call everyone (except for themselves) toxic for not warning them (even if were not there anyway) and even if they did not doing so earlier (“in time”) and demand a nerf of the boxing gloves and banning of the string altogether (and compensation for their troubles).

:upside_down_face:

2 Likes

Makes an Interesting metaphor for ganking.

image

3 Likes

Lol. Thus speaks someone who doesn’t have a killboard record for over 2.5 years whereas I have 24 just in the past month. And somehow I’m the one out of touch with the game !

1 Like

Don’t put words into my mouth. I have made clear what I consider P2W: If one could buy anything with real money that a non-paying player cannot get access to by any ingame mechanic.

But I can buy Skill Injectors, TrainingBoosters, Implants or whatever any of these “Game Packs” offer for ISK as well and it is not very hard to get the ISK for it if I want to do that. And since I do not know or have any influence over the SP or Equipment of any other pilot on the field, I couldn’t care less if he has trained or bought his SP, I always have to deal with what he brings to the grid and its entirely my decision to engage it or not or how I do it. And on that Grid he cannot have any purchased advantage that I can’t have as well.

You can of course try to twist that around as long as you like, it doesn’t change my personal opinion about what P2W is. The stuff CCP has implemented in EVE rather helps newer players to catch up to the hundreds of millions of SP and billions in Assets that older players already have accumulated, what is not a bad thing at all because it is pretty frustrating for a new player to be told “yeah my friend, you want to fly with us in our HAC-Doctrine Fleets with fully T2 fit? Next year maybe, next year!”. Just because it took me 5 years to train what I can fly now, it isnt nessessarly good t hat someone who begins now should also need 5 years to even catch up to the point where I am today.

2 Likes

Why would it take longer to train to T2 fit HAC now than it did 5 years ago?

Quick question Lucas, the forums is a terrible place to have a one on one convo. Plus things get really mired with multiple people posting.

I’d like to contact you in game via eve-mail or dm.

I’m curious to get your background and reasons for position(s) you take on here.

Ax’l Thorne is my main (and really the only character I play) so you can drop me a line any time.

Um, check back at the freequent posters list for this thread.

The numbers seem to disagree with you

m

4 Likes

Calm down Mike.

You don’t even play EvE Online.

2 Likes

I didnt say that.

Thats what I thought which is why I dont understand how you dont get that reducing the NORMAL length of time it takes for money is an advantage to be had.

A boon, if you will.

A leg-up.

A Level-skip.

Cheating but with money.

2 Likes

It would be cheating to get “above a level that I can reach as legit player” with money. It isn’t cheating to catch up to me to somewhat equalize the disadvantage of a later start.

That is the finest word-ballet I think Ive seen

Bravo.

Literally proves black is black and offers it as proof that its white.

You guys.

2 Likes

Hi Mike,

I don’t wish to sandbag this thread too but I like others just wish to be a part of history.

If or when the coming changes to the way Highsec Concord / Faction War / Deathless play this game then many like to feel a part of the change either for or against.

Is it not okay to kick up dust once in a while?

o7

Sorry, I miss any argument in this rant.

Its not a rant.

You literally prove that buying is SP is an advantage, and just declare it not.

Just to continue a never-endeing argument.

Baffling. Absolutely baffling.

3 Likes

I did not. I did explain why buying SP is in no way “cheating” but one way for newer players to catch up to older players who currently have nearly all advantages on their side.

Ah because older players could deal with a normal level of progression and new players cant, they need to buy the ADVANTAGE the veterans didnt have.

I can see how buying that advantage the veterans didnt have isnt an advantage.

Dude, please stop replying to me, your trollpower is sub Nissan Micra

3 Likes