Nerf Ganking Megathread

[Uriel_the_Flame]

offtopic: Don’t feel like creating an own thread for this and here it won’t make a difference just read on r/Eve that some guy called wally is going to biomass his character (not even sure if should be trusted) so a bit of a search showed he was some drama guy on r/Eve but can’t be bothered to spend more time on this so can someone give a summary about this guy?

[Ramona_McCandless]

I see what you did there

[Scipio_Artelius]

@Uriel_the_Flame

can someone give a summary about this guy?

I think the top comment on that thread says it all really. Good luck to him though.

[Uriel_the_Flame]

What? Really had nothing else in mind than what I wrote. Now I don’t know what you’re referring to and am curious what you’ve meant.

[Ramona_McCandless]

Hmm we will see

[Uriel_the_Flame]

This is not the same guy as hateless if that’s what you’re thinking of. At least as far as I know.

[Ferdiad_Silver]

@Lucas_Kell

but that has no basis in reality.

Based on and evidenced by your behaviour in this forum and anyone who has made it this far down the thread has a lasting record of your behaviour.

@Lucas_Kell

refer to other people’s opinions as an “agenda”

Your agenda is to have ganking removed from the game and if not removed nerfed, again based on and evidenced by your posts in this thread…

[Jesse_W_James]

@Gix_Firebrand

Ah. This explains a lot I feel sorry for you bruv.

Math? You are acting as if what you’re saying is a guarantee, which it isn’t. If you can’t admit that, you don’t live in reality LOL.

Yes, education is a mysterious thing.

And you are acting like everything is fine brah, your delusion of reality is summed up as follows. Low IQ.

@Gix_Firebrand

LOL. And that’s CCP’s fault boyo. And because players are risk adverse.

Also you can make a pretty penny PvPing. Ganking is PvP

Hawk, Cliff and Aiko make a darn good living LOL.

Ganking isn’t PvP, it is what scared people do when they can’t actually play the game. They go into high sec and play with baby seals because that is easy to do and act like it is some big accomplishment. It is a joke how laughable all the people you mention are.

I guess you are just kissing donkey because you feel being in the group will give you a sense of belonging. This all goes back to my stated mental state of gankers and griefers, they do it really because they suck at everything else in life, and making someone else suffer with them makes the life a little better. Sad little story actually.

@Gix_Firebrand

All PvP is real PvP, from ganking to null wars.

Yeah lol omg how funny, next you are going to school me on mining PVP and Market PVP like the other muppets in this thread.

Survive outside of high sec, and I will digress.

@Gix_Firebrand

Yes. And when things have too much supply? Demand goes down LOL. No one will lose officer stuff. Game becomes stale.

And you think it is vibrant today?

And demand doesn’t go down price goes down, maybe my supply and demand graphs are sideways, no upside down, wait sideways, which way does this go.

@Gix_Firebrand

What you don’t understand is EVE’s PvE isn’t strong enough to hold interest based on itself alone. The PvE is merely the tool to get the goods to do the PvP LOL.

In a game that only gets PvE releases and updates and a storyline, you don’t think PvE could go on. You don’t think a miner could mine forever? They do today where are you? h-e-l-l-o anybody home?

Look at all alts built ever, I bet vast majority of them are for PvE.

Take out alts all together, I bet the game number look hugely different.

Add a PVE only zone, would impact the game in a huge way. CCP knows this and are taking steps to get that much needed additional revenue and most of the community supports it. Fresh Map, gets ganking out of high and into low, it will be great.

@Gix_Firebrand

Sighs. No, no you don’t bruv. Trammel isn’t even from this game

Well my statement is still correct on the first real gate camp in high sec back in the day. Maybe not Trammel.

Are you saying you want freedom of actions? If so I agree there is tons of space in the game. Moving all PvP to Low, WH, Null isn’t a huge deal, and tons of system to explore and have that PvP interaction if you want.

@Gix_Firebrand

All you literally want people to do is farm mindlessly with no risk LOL.

You can’t even use F10 to plot a course around being ganked in a hauler. I hardly think you should put yourself in a place to give advice out

In your train of thought everyone is a HUGE PvPer in Eve. If you make High non PvP OMG everyone would rush to low null and wh right?

Your thoughts and advice are as good as the weather currently at the airport.

@Gix_Firebrand

Mmm not really bro You just don’t got a leg to stand on, so you bring out the age trope

Again, I very much don’t think any teenagers, if at all play EVE LOL.

You have zero original thoughts like the rest of the toons in here. Don’t worry I will keep watching, looking and waiting for that moment someone with sense arrives. It isn’t you, unfortunately, or your friends here.

JJ

[Jesse_W_James]

@Ferdiad_Silver

Your agenda is to have ganking removed from the game and if not removed nerfed, again based on and evidenced by your posts in this thread…

Yeah totally agree with this, move ganking to low, where we can agree it is now PvP. And we move on with life.

JJ

[Ferdiad_Silver]

@Lucas_Kell

I disagreed with you and you took that as an attack.

It’s not where you disagree with people that I call it a personal attack. It’s where you use language to diminish them and their position without actually engaging then on their position… again, evidenced time and again by your behaviour in this forum not just with me but with anyone that produces a counter point problematic for your agenda.

You can keep saying it is what I believe over and over, difference is anyone can read through the thread, and if they are this far down probably have, and can see this behaviour for themselves.

[Gix_Firebrand]

@Jesse_W_James

Yes, education is a mysterious thing.

And you are acting like everything is fine brah, your delusion of reality is summed up as follows. Low IQ.

Everything is fine brah. We playing an open world PvP game where you consent to PvP when you undock.

Life is good

Also, I wouldn’t try to use slang you aren’t familiar with

@Jesse_W_James

Ganking isn’t PvP

But it is. It is a player vs a player. None of your semantic Olympics can dispute this fact

@Jesse_W_James

I guess you are just kissing donkey because you feel being in the group will give you a sense of belonging. This all goes back to my stated mental state of gankers and griefers, they do it really because they suck at everything else in life, and making someone else suffer with them makes the life a little better. Sad little story actually.

Yennoe, although this paragraph made me literally laugh out loud, and for long time too, it also evoked a strong sense of pity.

I mean can you imagine a grown dude actually thinking this? We are literally playing an open world PvP game. People are engaging in legitimate game play, according to the rules of the game.

Now you may not like the playstyle, but it is legitimate. But somehow because they are engaging in this playstyle, you are making broad sweeping assumptions about their real life, outside of the vidya game.

Now in my long gaming career my anecdotal evidence is that I find the competent PvPers, gankers etc, are for the most part very smart and well adjusted people. They can be clannish, but that comes with the territory.

I’ve generally found the terrible people, are people like you

@Jesse_W_James

Yeah lol omg how funny, next you are going to school me on mining PVP and Market PVP like the other muppets in this thread.

Survive outside of high sec, and I will digress.

I mean do you need lessons on that or

Um. The majority of my EVE career has been spent out of high sec LOL.

@Jesse_W_James

And you think it is vibrant today?

And demand doesn’t go down price goes down, maybe my supply and demand graphs are sideways, no upside down, wait sideways, which way does this go.

Uh. Price goes down because the demand goes down bruv…

@Jesse_W_James

In a game that only gets PvE releases and updates and a storyline, you don’t think PvE could go on. You don’t think a miner could mine forever? They do today where are you? h-e-l-l-o anybody home?

Look at all alts built ever, I bet vast majority of them are for PvE.

Take out alts all together, I bet the game number look hugely different.

Add a PVE only zone, would impact the game in a huge way. CCP knows this and are taking steps to get that much needed additional revenue and most of the community supports it. Fresh Map, gets ganking out of high and into low, it will be great.

Except they aren’t being updated anytime soon LOL.

Ganking wouldn’t go into low. Ganking is a specalized form of high sec PvP. PvP anywhere else is simply called PvP.

Also, they would never enter low because they would never have a reason to. You realize there is a reason why most of low is safer than high sec right? I barely see people in my neck of the woods cept for one corp that has made it its home.

@Jesse_W_James

Well my statement is still correct on the first real gate camp in high sec back in the day. Maybe not Trammel.

Are you saying you want freedom of actions? If so I agree there is tons of space in the game. Moving all PvP to Low, WH, Null isn’t a huge deal, and tons of system to explore and have that PvP interaction if you want.

It is tho. Because the majority of people would never leave high. And it effectively murder the game LOL.

If anything, high sec needs a nerfing.

@Jesse_W_James

In your train of thought everyone is a HUGE PvPer in Eve. If you make High non PvP OMG everyone would rush to low null and wh right?

Everyone is a PvPer in EVE. Whether by hook or by crook. As soon as you undock, you become a PvPer.

@Jesse_W_James

You have zero original thoughts like the rest of the toons in here.

In other words, you got no leg to stand on

@Ferdiad_Silver

You can keep saying it is what I believe over and over, difference is anyone can read through the thread, and if they are this far down probably have, and can see this behaviour for themselves.

I find it super funny when he contradicts himself in the same post and tries to girlboss gaslight his way out of it

[Ferdiad_Silver]

@Lucas_Kell

Such as?

Again I direct them to your post history on this thread.

[Ferdiad_Silver]

@Lucas_Kell

So no examples then.

There is plenty of them but it is far better for everyone to read it all in context then for me to cherry pick a few examples that make you seem even worse out of context. I’d rather them learn from the facts.

[Gix_Firebrand]

@Lucas_Kell

And what they will absolutely see is vastly more attacks at me than from me. The worst I’ve said is that I called ganking a cancer on the game, which is no different from the attitude towards miners. At least I didn’t start up a website to harass people outside of the game and avoid repercussions.

LOL and now the blog makes you cry. It is delicious.

It just appears you aren’t very good at this online stuff huh?

@Ferdiad_Silver

There is plenty of them but it is far better for everyone to read it all in context then for me to cherry pick a few examples that make you seem even worse out of context. I’d rather them learn from the facts.

Yennoe I’m torn. Cause he always does this. You gotta realize, he’s like the naughty kid and he wants attention. I get the sense he don’t got a lot of friends yennoe what I mean?

And while giving him attention is bad, its just too hilarious.

I mean take a step back. This dude is an actual grown person. Acting like this. Over a vidya game.

It is the funniest yet saddest thing as well, possibly in the world LOL.

What he doesn’t understand, is he is getting ganked right now

[Ferdiad_Silver]

@Lucas_Kell

it is amusing how you ignore abhorrent behaviour from people you agree with.

@Gix_Firebrand

Ferd and I don’t agree on everything.

I openly call @Gix_Firebrand a wind up artist/troll multiple times. You and him give eachother as good as you get.

[Vokan_Narkar]

@Gix_Firebrand

But it is. It is a player vs a player. None of your semantic Olympics can dispute this fact

What if the gank victim is not at his keyboard at the time of the gank and his ship operates on autopilot. Isn’t that PvE then?

[Altara_Zemara]

@Jesse_W_James

Cry if I do, cry if I don’t.

Simply pointing out that you are just as duplicitous as Lucas in trying to have the argument both ways. As with all cases of confirmation bias the belief comes first and then the ‘supporting evidence’ is tacked on later. That is how, as Aiko and Gix and others have pointed out, you end up using a piece of ‘evidence’ in mutually contradictory ways in different posts. It is a clear sign of intellectual dishonesty.

And you try to back it up with a highly selective ‘CCP said…’…for example quoting a snippet of graph from CCP Rise, whilst at the same time deliberately avoiding his statement at the exact same time that CCP could find no evidence that ganking was deterring noobs.

[Wes_Wyhunnan]

@Lucas_Kell

CCP won’t ever balance or remove ganking, the same handful of incels will c

I think you missed this one when you went on your mass deleting spree. You had quite a run of “basement dwelling psychotic incels” going for awhile until people called you out on it and now all I see is a whole bunch of “post deleted” under your name. I think a lot of people here trash your ideas, but you definitely take the lead in personal attacks, and it’s not even close.

[Iceacid_Frostpacker]

I could be a Wally, as I think Wally is a nice pilot name once you get to know him.

[Altara_Zemara]

@Wes_Wyhunnan

I still can’t tell if this all an elaborate 9 month troll from you:) You are so different from young Cilla. If it is an actual growth and a changing of your mind, congrats

No…I think Cilla/Altara is a great example of what this forum should be about. People growing in their understanding of Eve, and not being too self inflated to ever admit being wrong. I’ve been wrong about a lot of things. I’m not one of those people ( hi, Lucas and JJ ) who has to be right at all costs even in the face of the entire rest of the forum declaring a view wrong.