I think I’ll live.
I mean it’s actually pretty clear cut. CCP even had a presentation about it. You don’t need to harass them in chat for the blowing up of their ships to be considered griefing.
You should at-least take responsibility for deciding to pick on the lowest hanging fruit in game instead of blaming it on the goons.
I think its disgusting that Lucas griefed newbros, by his own admission!
He can’t bro.
He literally can’t.
Again, you are trying to be rational with an irrational dude LOL.
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Circumstantial. Not intentional. Prove me wrong.
I’ll have a word with Aiko to look into this. Mining permits are meant to be sold, not sat on.
Again, nothing disingenuous about me mentioning last week’s incident. I have nothing against stream sniping, it’s a known risk that can be dealt with easily (!), a risk that comes from this being a full on pvp game. Streaming does not entail immunity nor privilege.
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Please spend some time in, “Why Was I Ganked” and get back to me.
Where have I not taken responsibility? When I say “that’s what hanging out with goons gets you” I mean it turns you into a ****. At no point does it stop being my responsibility for doing so.
The blog was designed as a place to present these “tears” and has contained instructions on how to effectively do so and materials like pre-built mails to sent to maximise the angry responses. It is funny though how the onus is always on me to prove everything, even when you’re making a claim then telling me to disprove it.
So, you admit that gankers are griefers.
Finally!
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I said antigankers are griefers, yes.
To become a ganker, you can’t actually be a griefer. Griefers don’t have the patience or skill, they always flunk out of ganker training. They wind up crying in the forums, like Lucas, and whining for CCP to step in and do something.
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I never made a study of James’ blog, although I did read a few very funny stories many years ago.
But I’d like to pose the next question, based on a similarity.
There is a series of youtube videos by a very well-known, respected and even admired eve player (who, as far as I am aware, is currently not playing EvE) who ganked people, then sent the victims rp eve-mails, had some Schadenfreude occasionally, etc. He too got real life threats. The only difference between what you take offense at and the parallel I presented would seem to be that what I’m referring to happened in w-space. Similar tactics, similar results, similar saltiness, similar rp, similar publicity. What would make you not call that griefing as well ? Or do you ?
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The difference is Chance Ravinne only griefed newbro explorers.
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Lol right
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It’s possible I haven’t seen his whole catalogue. However I’ve never seen Chance Ravine gank in a protected system. I didn’t even know they had any protected systems in W space.
If you feel a ganker is griefing newbros, by ganking them in a protected system, you certainly have the ability to file a support ticket with CCP. No need to exaggerate your allegation in the forums. CCP is certainly capable of addressing this issue.
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I do all the time. Its mostly killmails and chatting 
Or maybe its just you And not the goons LOL.
Actually that isn’t what she’s saying.
The only ‘ganker’ I have any evidence of having griefed newbros is Lucas Kell.
He confessed.
As I said, most antigankers are griefers, who tried ganking and failed. They antigank to get “revenge” on the gankers, because they are jealous that another player is demonstratably better at the game. CCP Rattati stated at FanFest that he conducted “extensive research” and found that the ganking community and the griefing community are two separate communities. Griefers, like Lucas Kell, simply don’t have the patience or skill for ganking, so they resort to griefing tactics like spamming the forum.
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I don’t think spamming the forums is griefing. Or we’d have to beat Gix with the naughty bat. What is griefing is making up lies to try and smear perfectly honest gankers with his own motives. That smacks of harassment to me.
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It really depends on what the eve-mails were, and if they were designed to provoke those responses. If they were then absolutely that’s griefing.
I’ve pointed out facts. I get that because you disagree with them you’ll claim they are lies but that doesn’t stop them being facts. My motive was never to grief and it was the attempts to get me to cross that line that made me takes a serious look at the state of ganking.
That’s exactly what a griefer would say…
