Nerf Ganking Megathread

I totally agree that the ‘scores’ and ‘rankings’ are irrelevant…and that silly graphic that shows how ‘dangerous’ anyone is.

But…killboard does provide an amazing and detailed history of a person’s encounters. I can look at it and think ’ ah yes…that time I met the 1100 DPS Praxis at a gate camp '. With a little investigation I can even get the fitting of that Praxis.

And it’s not like kills/losses are totally ‘irrelevant’. I mean…wtf are we all playing for if not kills ? Does anyone give a damn how much ISK anyone has ? Or how much stockpile of Void L or some turret weapon. Does anyone really care how many blingy Paladins anyone has ? No. The only thing that demarcates anyone being ‘better’ or having more success in the game is kills/losses. There is otherwise no point in playing !

If having a better kill/loss record than others is not important…then nothing in the game is important.

( My God, Lucas is replying literally as I post this…Lucas, do you even get any sleep or are you sitting there 24/7 ? )

Thread record achieved. Congrats to the winner.
On the side, I wonder if Repetitive Stress Injury on the forums is a thing.

Oh, and ganking doesn’t need nerfing. More people need to undock and run risks, contribute to the economy by making a few fair losses, learn to cope with negative emotions of loss and anger as well, and become well-rounded eve players. On the other hand, don’t settle for low quality kills. Tell your attacker what he could have done better - politely and classy.

I claim the record for the most times someone has asked for the thread to be closed. Please put us out of our misery.

No chance, even more threads would pop up on the same subject. This keeps it contained as much as possible.

Also, I don’t think ganking in hisec needs to be nerfed.

I derive enjoyment from griefing.

That’s the only thing that is important.

So you agree ganking is good. Thankee :smiley:

He says he doesn’t believe he needs to provide any proof to his claims, but wants to be 100% percent believed :smiley:

Facts don’t matter when it comes to “nerf ganking”, only emotions. The discussion has never been one about fairness and game design but about failure in playing the game, despite the OP, using emotions as an alibi.

The proof is in the observation that in the last 1500 posts - at least the non-deleted ones - there have been no new elements. Emotions are never creative, they never come with solutions, only demands.
And then there are those who just want to harvest tears by destroying established playstyles, because they can, for shits and giggles, with prejudice. But since “gankers will not be touched” - as per Mr Rattati’s own words - who cares.

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Sadly tho that can change.

Hence my staunch defense of a playstyle I rarely engage in cept for lulz.

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Compared to your 439 posts in the last 18 days in this thread alone I’m not even at apprentice level.

I like how you make every effort to make anyone who supports the idea of hisec ganking look like someone who does not know the difference between ganking and griefing. You don’t seem to, so that makes you a griefer when you gank, or rather ganked :rofl:

Try something else, for once in 440 posts ?

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Cept Yong has already pointed out where you’re wrong and ROFLcoptered you into the ground.

Yet you keep posting this :smiley:

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Am I a ganker or a griefer?

Except that “someone” keeps flagging my posts for being offtopic. Must have hit someone’s nerve.
And also, he doesn’t play fair. He wants to go another round after the bout is looong over.

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I have minions?

Doubt.

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Did you read “@Lucas_Kell” anywhere in my post ? I have no idea who flags, so it wasn’t about you.

Ah, a misread again. It was about the number of posts, not the emotions that may have been in them.
You should get an answering machine to reduce the workload, because it’s very clear that a lot of people feel quite strongly about hisec pvp (ganking, not griefing) and they will respond to responses :rofl:

It’s possible you feel like being harassed. Others may feel harassed too because they receive responses from you all the time. Now who’s to say who is right and who is wrong ? But then I point at August 27th and 440 posts from a single individual since then (not counting the ones that were deleted), and the explosion of this thread. Correlation or causality ? At least it is not a reliable parameter of how important this “hisec ganking” thing is.

Griefing, on the other hand, is always important to address decisively, even if it were only one case per year. And on that everyone agrees.

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ROFL.

Heh. Who gon tell him?

I mean he literally griefed Altara :smiley:

You mean flying into a system where Altara is and inviting her to a duel ? It was rash, daring maybe (although with twenty alts available there is the possibility of a trap), but not harassment. An eve player with his history wouldn’t make that silly mistake and be caught harassing, especially after “inviting scrutiny”.

There’s some pretty big, poorly-supported leaps of logic going on here.

If lots of people are disagreeing with your opinions, is it because of a shadowy cabal led by the nefarious Aiko Danjula is conspiring against you, or are you just making a really dumb take? Use Occam’s Razor - which one is more likely?

The only interactions in-game I’ve had with Safety. are when they’re a handful of humble F1 monkeys on the hotdropping NPSI fleets I FC. It’s funny how despite their reputation as griefing, cutthroat harassers they’ve never once tried to intefere with my excessive use of black-ops battleships in those scenarios.

It’s almost like they’re honourable…

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Agreed. The only time I was meant to be a ganking victim (not by Aiko’s group) was during a suicide attack on a public fleet running triglavian anoms in hisec during the Invasion episode (I think Arsia was leading our fleet, or at least FC’d it from time to time). It was certain they were gonna lose their ships, not only to concord, but to trigs and to our fleet as well. Respect. And fun. It kept everyone on his/her toes at any moment.

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That’s why he made a throw away account bruv :smiley:

You realize every single thing he said about greifers, he has done to Altara right?

He didn’t do anything to violate the EULA per se, but he did it with all the intent of causing her grief.

You also missed where he started to grief her alliance as well.

He did a textbook grief job on her. To me, it actually shows what a stand up guy you are, because it seems you don’t know these tactics heh.

Yep. Also Lucas is just jealous really. If you sit back and notice, he gets triggered by people having fun with EVE :smiley:

The triangle lames are worse than any gankers.

Mmm I dunno about that. I was on the old forum too.

I doubt you posted much considering you had to use your main on C&P :smiley:

And at four days old… that makes it premeditated. And staying within the rules of the ToS/EULA would mean that what he accuses other people of doing is actually projection of his own activities. Skeletons in the cupboard indeed. :rofl:

Thank you. Single account guy (bar a mandatory alpha for sov gameplay). My personal sin only involves bombing the ■■■■ out of people when I can.

Apparently the so-called anti-hisec-pvp-crowd doesn’t mind getting ganked by npc’s. That’s only an annoyance to them. But getting ganked by someone with human intelligence, boy oh boy, what an insult.

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