Join me. Help others learn to EVE. You’ll understand one day. Most of the crying on these forums are because they have done it to themselves.
She could also solo roam null/low but she won’t 
Ok, let me rephrase the question. What does CCP see in the future for pvp in the game I guess?
How much do you trust them?
Wish I knew. I think the next set of PvP game changes will set the stage for the rest of this game’s existence. Rattati already said on the forums that they’re planning to delve into the non-economic aspects of the game soon.
I doubt they’ll keep the status quo. It’s going to go in one of two directions: a return to risk, or a doubling-down on safety and instancing.
I like how these people always talk about doing this and that, and how they’re affecting/beating/intimidating other players, but there’s no evidence of any of it ever being true.
It’s like they’re not trying to convince others of their exploits, but themselves.
I think she’d learn a lot more solo roaming low. It teaches you to think.
It’s not a strawman. Whether you agree with their reasoning or not, people aren’t arguing in bad faith when they say it -they actually believe it.
Personally, I am invested in, and value both predator and prey play styles. I think this means that I am less biased than someone who only ganks, or who only krabs. Moreover, I have experience on both sides of the blaster. So, I might actually know a thing or two about what I’m talking about. Now, with that out of the way…
As a PvE’er, I find that it is excessively easy to avoid being ganker bait. I have done an embarrassing amount of PvE in HS over the years, yet I was about 2 weeks old the last time I was ganked. In fact, my biggest risk, without question, isn’t players or rats, but DC’s. I haven’t kept stats, but approximately 90% of my losses are due to DC’s, and the other 10% are due to player error (either my own, or a fleetmates). 0.00% have come from ganks over my last 6 years of playing.
But what about the idea that you shouldn’t have to be a paranoid hardcore player in order to avoid getting ganked. Well, I dispute that too. There are plenty of “hardcore” players that get ganked (i.e. try-hard incursion FC’s who literally train and study for verbal and practical tests in order to do something in a video game), and I know “casual” weekend warriors who don’t. So, how do you account for this? Well, I think the issue isn’t a matter of how hardcore you are, but a matter of impatience, laziness, greed, and/or a lack of knowledge. And while it is true a lack of knowledge does take time and effort in order to remedy, it still doesn’t require that players be hardcore. It only requires a capacity and willingness to learn -especially considering the plethora of guides, resources, and community knowledge available (i.e. see the first post in this thread)
As they say, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. And the fact that some (highly active) players can go years and years without getting ganked, while others get ganked all the time, indicates that the issue isn’t with ganking, but with the decisions that potential prey are making. Seriously, think about it -what are the independent and dependent variables here?
I mean, it’s not like gankers are giving random dudes free passes, or randomly assigning players to gank and don’t gank categories. When I hunt, I specifically look for attractive gank targets -I look for the guys who are making it easy for me. Like this is clear as ■■■■■■■ day to me as a hunter, because of how I select my targets. I literally look for the people who are making stupid decisions.
So, yeah, when I say the people who get ganked are the people who deserve it, it’s because (1) as a PvE’er, my risk management strategies have managed to reduce my chances of being ganked to damn near zero, and (2) as a ganker, I specifically hunt for people who are making stupid decisions.
And, I’ve talked about this before, but I’m sure someone will bring it up -yes, empty freighters who get ganked made a stupid decision. It is common knowledge that unprofitable freighters sometimes get ganked. So if you still fly your empty freighter (which is a 3.5billion isk capital ship) through a system with an active gank fleet without taking any precautions (i.e. use a scout, wait till later), then you, in fact, made a stupid decision born of impatience and/or ignorance.
And, FYI, each gank caries a cost in ships, and an opportunity cost (15 min GCC). So, gank fleets aren’t going to be prioritizing empty freighters. However, if a fleet goes too long without getting a kill, people will start getting bored and leave, which will decrease the engagement profile of the fleet. So, FC’s will sometimes gank unprofitable targets just to keep people from leaving.
Anyway, I dispute other points you made as well. But I’ve already written a wall of text. So, I guess I’ll just leave it at that.
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Yes, I never said otherwise. My comment stands:
But this is off topic, just so you know.
This is absolutely spot on. I will add that often times it’s adapting to what an experienced player is doing to try and catch them that is very rewarding…. Like decloaking DSTs running the cloaky mwd trick and then ganking. Yes generally there’s plenty of targets making it too easy for us to gank that are hanging around.
Yet your previous comment is directly saying that the only reason he’s making profits like that is because others aren’t producing. Blackflag isn’t stopping anyone from using NPC or Citadel manufacturing slots.
Oh dear…
https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99010015/reset/group/1404/losses/
https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99010320/reset/group/1404/losses/
I happen to believe that Bully Brigade are Blackflag alts. Might be wrong there but I include them for good measure as they have the approach to force public structure owners to transfer ownership to them, let them go abandoned and then loot them.
So do you really want to tell me again about Citadel manufacturing slots?
This is false.
This is also false. They just go shoot abandoned structures. It’s that simple: structure goes abandoned and then the wardec goes in. Nothing fancy or manipulative.
Yes, I do. There are manufacturing slots in Citadels available publicly that are already profitable to use The fact that you have these wild hair theories and knowledge based off of I don’t know what tells me that you really don’t play the game. It’s either that or you take comments to heart and believe anything without doing your own due diligence.
There are plenty of public structures that can be used. Ultimately the fact that he’s able to make the profit he does out of NPC stations points me to believe that anyone stating that it’s unprofitable is either lazy, dumb, manipulative, and/or just likes to whine.
Drac you just need to take a break from posting and go experience what you are attempting to post about.
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I suspect that there are alts of Blackflag. players in them, one in particular stands out to me. I apologise, I should have said some, it is a high level suspicion based on observation of certain war dec targets.
Actually I have contacts who they did that too, we also war decked them to stop them from letting one such structure go abandoned. There is so much you get wrong or don’t know. NukeDD something to look at then?
I never said it was unprofitable, I just said that as he is now able to make profit manufacturing stuff by buying from the market and producing stuff in NPC stations that the impact on hisec manufactuers was evident.
You are the one who lacks experience. Take that BM comment you replied to me about.
@Faylee_Freir @Shipwreck_Jones
Thanks for your honest thoughts on the matter. I obviously don’t agree with all of the conclusions, but I think I understand your motivations and point of view a bit better.
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Yes, the all-knowing Drac whose library of knowledge and experience stems from others and their claims.
We both may be “forum warriors” around here but at least I play the game actively. You’d think that instead of always having the need to put your ignorant opinion in that’d you’d absorb some knowledge around here or at least not misguide people.
Perfect example is the whole Stormbringer discussion where you insisted that they weren’t feasible because someone told you they weren’t. It took a few people writing longer posts than you deserve to explain it to you. Then you were convinced enough to agree and train for them. So even at the end of the day you aren’t forming your own thoughts and verifying things for yourself.
This is part of the toxicity that others here point out. You’re a self-righteous know it all that actually knows very little.
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It’s perfectly fine if we don’t agree! I’m just glad I can provide some insight into why someone like me would be motivated to do what I do. Other gankers will have their own reasons and motivations and those are fine as well.
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when i read this line the first thought that came to mind was Farmers Insurance! LOL, “We cover a thing or two since we have seen a thing or two”
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The Stormbringer issue is why you have no clue about me.
I had listened to experienced people who said it was not viable for AG, so accepted that at face value, having not liked the damage output when I initially looked at them. When another player insisted that they could be used and was pretty insistent on it I decided to look at them in detail. Working back the damage and the numbers needed and then decided that they could in fact be used with one important caveat, they were too expensive and as such a major gank target.
I have looked at the ammo and range and the fact that one needs to keep burning with the MWD on to negate ganker fleets, but I am also aware that Thrashers would be an issue for them if used in numbers based on the range issue, you have to be orbiting the gate.
Also with the nerf to RR these ships would be on their own, if they used their weapons they could be ganked without any RR. AG does not have the resources like you do from your massive ISK generation, so cannot use them like ammo. One of the issues with AG by the way…
And this is the reason why other AG players told me that they were not viable. I and some others could use them, but we would do so every so often. Their assessment is actually quite correct for the majority of AG players.
So where is the toxicity in this?
You and others are throwing toxic at me a lot recently, among all the other things that normally gets thrown my way. Seriously, is this a play for some forum skulduggery from a certain biased person with power on the forums?
I am an experienced player and I play with other experienced players. I listened to them saying it was not viable and did not investigate further, but then I did after someone made a strong case for it. I modified my opinion, but they are not really viable for most AG players.
I am very active since I have been back, it is just not evident to Zkill warriors…
LMAO. You seem a bit salty, go and gank something to feel better about this!
There are a large number of factors that come into play. For example, when I mine I always do so within d-scan range of the station I will be taking the ore to. That way I can know if there’s any dodgy ships lurking outside that station. If any potential ganker ships are there, I warp to 50km from the station and have a look…then warp back again, etc, and dock if its all clear. It might waste a bit of time but its better than losing a ship. I think a lot of getting ganked arises from sheer impatience.
Likewise when ratting in asteroid belts, I always warp to 50km from the belts to avoid trouble…which is no problem as my ratting ship is fast, and it also gives me time to lock on all potential targets.
When transporting stuff like weapons or ammo ( which I do a lot of in another account ) I just use a cheap shuttle of other fast ship. Much safer to do multiple smaller trips that are ‘not worth ganking’ than to transport 200m ISK worth of stuff all in one go.
Haven’t lost a ship in over 2 months now…so I must be doing something right.
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Brother, you realize you admitted this is all opinion right? So why would we take it as fact ROFL.
You are being blatantly dishonest.
That would involve him actually playing
You got no proof brother. You’re blowing smoke
Sure you do, sure you do
He just copies what others do. He’s copied my tactics that I posted about AG and tried to claim them as his own LOL.
Its just sad really.
You got problems bro.
Heh. In ship spinning?
You mean after Aiko made you re-sub? Yea, never gonna forget that bro
Mining isn’t PvE because ateroids don’t shoot back. We should be admonishing these criminals that strip innocent rocks that can’t fight back of their value.
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Dang, there goes Dracvlad unearthing another trove of hidden griefer alts with his brilliant sleuthing skills.
Is nothing safe and sacred from his watchful gaze and lightning-fast deduction skills?
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What just makes me cackle is he flat out says its opinion, but then demands it to be taken as fact ROFL.