As always you are lying to make it appear that what you do is exceptional. Put aside the fact that you aren’t in any leadership position where you actually coordinate these fights. It’s well known how these alliances operate.
Ships are never lost because you never take on any actual risk. It’s not “well defended” if the attackers never lose any ships. Almost all of the structures you attack will not be defended at all, and the few that are defended will rarely be defended well. Because that’s what your alliance and other alliances like your target.
Do you honestly believe that your alliance takes on lots of challenging fights but rarely loses a ship on ops because you’re all so superior to all other EVE players?
I remember flying along side Wrecking Machine with my alliance BlackFlag and we were 55-65 vs about 210. We do have have fights… we won that one.
I even have a video of it. Granted not many will stand up, not even null sec defends their individual members or corps structures.
Even a little look at Wrecking Machine zKillboard will show you they do have fights. How many ships do you loose when you pop a sod on gate with 60 or 100 other people? What do you risk? I undock highsec capitals, what do you risk? A frigate maybe? Nothing of worth.
We have fights, but she’s making out that we deliberately go for easy targets…which is nonsense. Most WM members ( and I’d imagine most Blackflag members ) want a fight.
And yes, we’ve done structures alongside BlackFlag on a number of occasions. You guys are formidable.
It is the same concept as many in the BBS channel. I pop a marauder with a nergal i baited in a mission. I get a ugh highsec. They pop a frigate with cloaky t3 solo in low or null they relive a scene from topgun and high five each other naked in the showers.
I’ve been on the receiving end of BlackFlag on one occasion in an alt ( spy ) account…so have actually been a station defender. Taking on Leshaks that have logi support is all but impossible, and the logi chain means its very hard to even take on the logi. Which is how it is all supposed to work.
There were no personal attacks. Saying something you disagree with is not a personal attack. It doesn’t surprise me that you are going to abuse the forum flagging system.
It’s not nonsense, it’s absolutely true. That’s what your alliance does, it goes after undefended structures to get cores to sell. I’m sure you do occasionally get into fights, but they will be the exception not the rule.
None. But I’m not pretending that’s high-quality PvP in which I’m vastly superior. Altara is in an alliance that takes down undefended structures for profit and is claiming that she is “part of one of the most well disciplined fleets in Eve” which is complete nonsense.
The fact is that the introduction of cores made it profitable to go after easy targets and so some alliances do that. It’s not necessarily bad that they do but it’s a poor design decision for CCP as it forces smaller corps to have to merge into giant alliances to be able to build their own home in the sandbox.
Nonsense. You are not merely ‘disagreeing’. It is downright bad manners and ad hominem to ask someone what they do and then accuse them of ‘lying’, and so on, when all they are doing is responding.
I am getting sick and tired of your deliberately antagonistic responses, and have every intention of flagging them as the trolling and personal attacks that they are.
I didn’t ask you what you did. I made a factual statement about what your alliance does. It’s OK if our opinions differ and it’s not a personal attack if I don’t agree with you. Abusing the flagging system isn’t going to make us agree.
I’m not going to respond to your posts if they are just going to accuse me, threaten me and insult me. I’d like to be able to continue a discussion on the topic in good faith, so let me know if you would like to do that.
That would be fun. In fact some stations have their own defences…missiles, drones, neuting of enemy ships, and so on that add to the firepower. But given that the average opposing fleet is going to be formidable battleships in fleets of 30 or so, I doubt the two of us are going to hold out. But the carnage would be fun.
That said…in order to do so I could not do so as an AO account.
You were not ‘disagreeing’…you were outright accusing someone of lying, and making it personal by attacking me rather than the content with statements like ’ to make it appear that what you do is exceptional '. And even now you just can’t stop with the antagonism. God Emperor Kane has even told you what happens…but still you rant on.
I have been on 80 alliance fleets and you have not been on a single one…and you know more than me about what they do ?? Have you any idea how ridiculous your ‘factual’ sounds in that context ?
You’re making an assumption I’ve never been on a single one. It’s also widely known what these alliances do, I don’t even think it’s supposed to be a secret. I’m pretty sure one of your alliance leaders posted on here a couple of years back specifically talking about how great it was they were going to be able to get loot from abandoned structures and how they’d scouted loads of them out.
It’s also statistically implausible that your alliance picks such a high proportion of undefended structures by accident. There are countless trade hubs and freeports that would bring a defense force that you never attack and they are all more visible than the unlisted structures held by small corps your alliance tends to target.
Again, it’s not an insult. It’s completely fine that in the mechanics that CCP has built there are some alliances that farm undefended structures for profit and in the process prevent the growth of smaller corps. It’s bad on CCPs part that they have a system that encourages that, it’s not bad on the part of the alliances who choose to take advantage of that bad design.
It should be the case that the amount of profit you get is proportional to the risk you take, but as it’s currently designed the exact opposite is true, with completely abandoned structures being the most profitable and undefended structures being more profitable than those that are actively defended.
As you have never been on an alliance fleet, you have no idea what portion of structures are defended or not. Whereas I do…as I am actually on the fleets. It’s just unbelievable that you, with zero experience of it, think you have more knowledge of it than someone who actually does it. But then again, you do exactly the same with ganking…telling gankers what they do even though you have never ganked.
I’ve encountered numerous defended structures. On two occasions almost lost my Phantasm ( which is what I was flying then ) to defenders. You wouldn’t know any of this…because you were not there !
The sheer gall with which you pretend to know more about it all than people who actually do it on a regular basis is just breathtaking.
As for attacking trade hubs, etc…why would any structure bashing alliance want to attack structures that are serving a useful function for everyone ?
That’s nonsense too. I had a spy alt in a 300 man corp that had no player owned structures at all and was based solely in an NPC station. They clearly grew to 300 without having any player structure at all.
I’ll respond to one example of where you just try to bamboozle with subjective words, rather than your entire post that is full of such. What is ‘properly’ ? Who gets to decide what ‘properly’ is ?
And do stop the crybully behaviour where you attack others and then try to twist it round.