A blackout in nullsec will help solve the issue as botters will struggle to identify the incoming fleet that is still 5 jumps away.
I agree, as long people with -5 sec stat doesn’t have free movement in hisec, and be hunted by Concord as they travel. So y can still move, bit not be still in a system.
well for 1, if you are cherry picking then you are a stupid miner.
and for 2, the net result for your dumb idea of different ores in each rock just means all the rocks get mined regardless of what they are.
The argument that you need multiboxing to be able to play EVE solo falls flat with me. I play the game mostly solo, but I enjoy it because I can chat with people and I have to watch out for other players trying to kill me. There are plenty of things to do solo in EVE with one character logged in–you just can’t do the stuff that was DESIGNED to be done by multiple players.
Ok lets do this, remove all multiboxxing, but you have to reimburse every single player for every single toon, including all ships, equipment,skills and gear, for the entirety of that toons life span?
Sound like a good deal?
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Sure. Although I guess this should be an election, since we’re not saying you should only be allowed one character, just that you can only play with one character at a time. But transferring assets to your main if you choose seems only fair.
NO not transferring assets, i put the time, IRL money and patients to grow these other Accounts and the characters on them, IF i cannot use them in tandem as I am now, I want 100% reimbursement for everything ive ever done on them, from you and folks voting to limit it to one account.
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Surely you can’t think you’re entitled to items and ISK you’ve lost over the life of your character(s)? That doesn’t even make sense.
But you should be entitled to either transfer everything those characters have however you wish, and if you feel the need for some sort of “pain and suffering” compensation, I think that’s probably reasonable. Not sure how you value time and patience though. In any case, it would never come from players who suggested the idea, as CCP owns all the in-game assets and would be the entity ultimately making the decision, so if CCP does decide to try limiting multiboxing, good luck.
Still, this is just a thought experiment anyway. CCP won’t do this, because they are clearly averse to making any significant changes to the game, and it may not even be feasible from a technical perspective.
Entitled, not at all.
Just because you don’t like a playstyle, doesn’t mean the rest of the universe should revolve around your thinking.
It’s entitled to think everyone should play like you.
This. I’ve debated the usefulness of getting another account set up to do hauling/salvaging/etc, and eventually concluded it just wasn’t worth the investment as a mostly-solo player. Like a lot of people, I started as a miner, and could maybe see multiboxing paying off there… but it’s just too boring. Now as a mission runner, maybe an alt would be useful to manage my hauling and trading, but I’ve held off getting into it just because I think it might be more hassle than it’s worth.
If I ever find myself with a LOT of free time (ha!) I’d see about joining a well-run corp and being more social, but I’ve also found a lot of enjoyment in just generally surviving.
Either way, I don’t see myself bothering with multiboxing.
What an utter bollocks! You aren’t even trying anymore.
Multiboxing is not a problem, ■■■■ off.
Isn’t there laws that keep patients prisoner?
yes
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You’re using “entitled” in a different way than I am. Based on your post, would you not say you think that you have a right to “100% reimbursement” if multiboxing is eliminated? That’s all I mean. “Entitled” isn’t always a pejorative.
I actually find it difficult to think of multiboxing as a “playstyle,” any more than I think of wanting to play AFK is a “playstyle.”
Also, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with people who do it; it’s allowed and arguably encouraged by EVE’s design. I just think that’s a fault in the design that should be addressed, for the reasons I’ve already stated.
I think it’d be cool if they eliminated, or at least curtailed, multiboxing. But I’m still going to play regardless. Just something I’d like to see.
What would actually work, though? Does CCP somehow know that a group of accounts are run by the same player? Sure you could group by IP or MAC, but both are spoofable. Perhaps some of the same mechanics used to identify botters would help, but in that case it’s kind of a two-birds-one-stone solution, isn’t it? Get rid of a bunch of multiboxing botters, now you’re left with legitimate multiboxers, are they still a huge problem?
No clue man–my understanding from others who clearly know more about the technical side than I do is that there’s no real easy fix.
And, frankly, I don’t have first-hand knowledge of it actually being a problem–bots aside–in the first place. My desire to see it limited comes more from (1) “in my perfect universe, this wouldn’t be incentivized in an RPG” and (2) seeing replies to otherwise potentially workable ideas of “won’t work, vets will just log in a dozen alpha alts.”
In case it hasn’t been apparent, this is true blue “in my opinion, based on nothing but anecdotal evidence” territory. So, to me it seems problematic, and even if it’s not, I’m just not a huge fan of it from a gameplay mechanics perspective.
I’d be curious to hear from someone who doesn’t multibox why they think multiboxing is a net positive for the game.
I don’t…Why would people who don’t do a thing be glad others are doing it?
Solo player does not mean they’re stubborn and avoid interaction. I play solo but every time I buy or sell on the market that is an indirect way of interacting with others. I do get into convos obviously as I’m here on the forum, but also in game. But actual game activities I normally do solo. Nothing wrong with it.
From what I have read the problem does not seem to be multiboxing, it seems to be the botting that tends to go with it. I do agree that botting is a issue that needs to be dealt with, but not at the expense of others.
Example, the change to the navy vexor. Commonly used by botters for ratting but also just a great drone boat that many liked. many hated the change especially alphas as they maxed their SP to that ship and the skills to go with it. Not the way to deal with botting. Lazy and rude, under the disguise of balance. Now I hear it’s a bunch of Gilas. I’m sure many will just love that ship being nerfed just to avoid botters.
Relying on reporters is not going to work either as it seems the majority of those claiming to have spotted botters are wrong.
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Because it means more $$$ for CCP, which helps the game we like continue.
That’s just the most obvious answer, I’m sure there are others.