I don’t know, the new titan has gotten a lot if interest. Then again, you could say it’s got two phallus shaped appendages…
And it has big guns. But more broadly, it might be more accurate to say that it’s always the toys that let men compensate that get the money, eh?
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A wind garden ? What’s that ? a garden planted with lots of tall leafy things that wave gently in the breeze, and you sit there on a bench or something and have a right good think ?
Well, it’s mostly a rhetorical argument, rather than a genuine expression of surprise at the state of things.
That’s actually not far off. I think they usually have more sound to them though, chimes and so on, which are more important than the plants. The winds are considered spiritual allies to the Caldari, guides and patrons.
(It’s not my sect’s practice so I hope Mr. Thorne will correct me if I’m wrong. Achura are considered spiritual kin by the Wayists but it’s by convergent spiritual evolution under similar kinds of pressures, and the specifics differ quite a bit.)
Oh right. Wind chimes. Though, I kind of find jangly noises a bit distracting to the process of having deep thoughts, so I didn’t immediately think of that.
Say… is it Achura, or Jin-Mei, that has those gravel gardens, with the precisely arranged different colours of gravel to make shapes and stuff, that people also sit on benches and stare and have a right good think ?
I can’t speak for the Jin-Mei; I’ve never visited their world or known a practitioner of their faith very well.
Achura have all kinds of practices; the “thousand sects” of Achur practice are probably an undercount. I do think I’ve heard of such things being done.
The most consistent single theme among the sects, at least among Achur monks, is martial practice as a key to perfecting the soul, so while meditation techniques (which is what I think you’re describing as a “right good think,” though it’s arguably the opposite-- a right good stop-thinking) are certainly part of it our temples and monasteries will pretty much invariably be centers of martial training.
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In a way. A tranquil garden, planted with plants that I enjoy, with a few mellow chimes that hang in the trees. A brook of running water.
Quite and devoid of the sounds of society. Just you, the weather, the breeze, nature and chimes.
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Moving this here, as it’s clearly OT to the OT.
Correct.
Incorrect. Gotta watch them assumptions. I don’t think the imagination is a bad thing, or that imaginary things should be shunned. But if some empires out there are going to use these imaginary things as the foundational basis for why trillions of human beings should suffer, well, then before they do that, they and anyone else who wants these imaginary things taken seriously had damned well better be prepared to demonstrate that it’s more than a delusion.
That’s a thumbsup parrot. It’s used to denote agreement with some measure of levity.
I’m glad you asked! There is, in fact, empirical proof that there are parts of the brain whose activity corresponds pretty universally to abstract reasoning and the awareness of things that aren’t there, but could be. You know, visualizing potential and things like that.
ie: imagining things.
Newp, once again, you gotta watch them assumptions. What I’ve said is that I won’t accept it unless it’s demonstrated, either by direct observation or other empirical data that supports the existence of such a thing. I also don’t reject it. How could I? The soul hasn’t been proven not to exist.
But just because something hasn’t been proven not to exist doesn’t mean I can take it as a given that it does. After all, Terrans haven’t been proven not to exist. But you don’t see me advocating national policy measures based on the idea that somewhere out there is a hyperadvanced form of human whose technology dwarfs that of even the Jove, Sleepers, and Triglavians, waiting to annihilate us all.
I also don’t believe I don’t. Only that I don’t need to care if I do or not, because not caring about it has been shown to be valid. Belief and disbelief are both active positions. Mine is ‘I don’t know, I don’t see any evidence one way or the other, so I don’t see any need to factor this into my decisions’. Thus my flippant ‘if it’s out there, it can stay out there, I haven’t needed [to find it] so far’.
Consider the idea? I have. Many times. Haven’t found any reason to say ‘this explicitly doesn’t exist’, but also haven’t found any reason to say ‘this does exist’ or even ‘this is a useful thing to spend my time thinking about’, except, you know, where it concerns discussion.
No, just rationality, and no particular need for a metaphysical crutch.
You mean, beyond the 700+ years that left indelible psychological and emotional scarring on my entire nation?
Good!
I dunno, like I said: I seem to have found enough happiness without it. Is there a particular reason my current level of happiness is inadequate? What’s wrong with just saying ‘I hope your way brings you happiness, as mine has brought me’?
It means that you’re letting people be Wrong On Gal-Net.
And we can’t be having that now, can we ?
The thought that across the gulfs of space, someone on a planet that you’ll probably never set foot on, holds a different view point, sorely vexes some people, keeps them awake at night.
I mean, we can’t stop them, either.
Thankfully true of most of those weird-ass space rocks. I still can’t get used to the idea of standing out on a rock someplace with no bulkheads, no shields, nothing between you and the cold, radiation-soaked void of unsurvivable space but air… so much air that it actually creates enough pressure that your blood would boil if it went away… Ughhhhhhh… that’s freakin’ creepy.
And what stops stuff from falling off the bottom ?
MORE AIR. :shudder:
ETA: And before anyone gives me the ‘but it’s perfectly natural’ line, I know it’s natural. I understand all the physics behind it. It’s still freakin’ weird and creepy, shut up.
Mmmhmm, mmmhmm. Oh!
Well, why didn’t you say that before you demanded proof.
That’s why I believe that when this topic is broached, you bait, and do not have any intention of having discussion in good faith.
I’ve seen you do this, time and time again.
And pray tell. What decisions? You think souls are the singular driving force in the decision making process?
Soul or not, you’re wise not to entrust anything in the hands of that crazy Amarrian woman.
I am not crazy.
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Because if you want me to believe in it, you need proof. And if I don’t believe in it, then there’s no reason for me to entertain it as a factor in things like ‘don’t you want to be saved?’ rhetoric.
Oh, I dunno, decisions like ‘what should I put up with for the betterment of this soul thing’? Because you know, whether or not I think it exists is kind of a massive factor in that, isn’t it?
I could care less. You don’t believe, then you don’t believe. I’m not going to guide you to your spiritual-whatever-ness. That’s your journey, and none of my business. But I will say this.
You’re spiritually lazy. You’re sitting there, expecting everyone else to hand you proof on platter. And if they fail to do so, you fire off little barbs and quips. It’s passive aggressive nonsense.
You don’t have a soul. Great. But if you were genuinely curious, you would get off your ass and start putting in some leg work. Start conversations with people who do believe in souls and see what they think. Yes yes, it’s not proof but get an idea and start formulating a belief for yourself.
That’s exactly what a crazy person would say.
I am not! I’m sure you don’t care, but it’s rude to call people names.
My mind is perfectly healthy, thank you very much!
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Question:
How many god points would you earn if you fed my soul to your soul machine?