ok!
1 Like
The current mechanics have no incentive for a player taking action against ganking. You can kill a -10 Catalyst a hundred times and have nothing to show for it. While risking a real PVP ship.
Gankers on the other hand risk nothing of value with the potential for reward in the billions.
Add to that the fact that targets are so random itās rather difficult to determine whoās next.
HS ganking is totally lopsided in its current state.
Only people that profit from it argue that itās āfair playā.
Real World Policing doesnāt pay much, but it pays somethingā¦
Antigankers appear unhappy with their rewards: neutron blasters and magnetic field stabilizers. In this game, risk = reward, so they will need to try something more challenging than clicking on Catalysts that are already scrammed by NPCs.
Perhaps they should try going to lowsec? Iām sure the antigankers can find a faction warfare guild to teach them how to play the game. Antigankers should also consider trying something like mining or gas huffing, it requires more skill and has more risk, but the additional challenge is compensated by additional rewards.
1 Like
As a miner, Iām torn between thanking you for the kind words, andā¦
ā¦pretending Lucas was right all along and throwing a fit over being given a compliment about my playstyle by one of the very people trying to āchase me awayā from the game? That doesnāt sound right somehowā¦
ā¦oh rightā¦ Iām not doing the second one, because I consider my attempts at escape and yours at preventing me from doing so to be part of the intended gameplay loop. Carry on! Also, thanks! o7
1 Like
Real-world policing is funded by taxes levied on the beneficiaries of the services rendered by police. If you want to get paid, then obviously the money needs to come from the people youāre protecting.
Your solution is to create a legitimate organization, and then offer people protection if they pay a modest fee (payers can be tracked via standings). Then you market your services properly, on the forums, in-game, Reddit, wherever. Protect only the people who pay the fee. Work hard, practice, and become efficient at your profession. Thereās your income right there.
Implementing some kind of easily-exploitable āgimmeā mechanic for NPC bounties on player characters will never work, and isnāt the way forward.
3 Likes
I propose this protection proof be put into purchaseeās bios for quick and easy verification.
Wellā¦ I am back to Ultima Online, I was an crazy griefer in the 90s, then I learned that while I wasnt playing the Trammel update added safe zones in UO!
Safe zones!! I canāt put live explosives in peopleās bags anymore making them walking bombs around the banks commiting mass genocide so I can loot everybody with my alt!
Trammel destroyed Ultima Online for me, but I will still playā¦ someone has to kill all those miners afk macroing and running scripts around caves and mountains.
Also if you player kill enough people like I used to, now you have to pay a fee of 10,000 gold to be ressurected!!
I rejoined Ultima Online now and there are still people crying about how much they were griefed in the 90s, I SWEAR TO GOD itās 2022 and they are still crying about it! Now even with the safe zones they run antiganking patrols to hunt the -10 players like a bunch of piranhas!
DO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN TO EVE ONLINE!
Miners and haulers just donāt like antigankers. They prefer to pay me, and Iām sorry if that makes someone jealous, but thatās how it is!
Mining permits are a great deal!
You should be ashamed of yourself for enabling Big Griefing to muscle out the mom-and-pop protection rackets from the communities that theyāve been a part of for so many generations.
Of course.
Ganking is a legit playstyle supported by in game rules.
HS is balanced.
What is a āreal PvPā ship? Cause yennoe you can easily kill that cata with a t1 frig right? Like it wonāt even touch you LOL.
For an 03, you sure are bad at this game 
They arenāt random tho. You just arenāt good at the game nor at meta data
You know he wonāt. Thatād require work and actual playing LOL.
If you run into mine, Iām not AFK And my miner has combat skills Already killed 2 PKs with him hehe. And another weird miner who tried to murder my poor pack llamaā¦
Such is my intent.
Wellā¦ if i could have a fleet of 70-100 gankers I would use T1 guns and modules and kill anything I could.
Who knows, if a fortunate turn of events happen in my life and my online life I will achieve such dream one day.
Numbers help a lot in a gank, thatās for sure.
Still the same tired rhetoric from Aikoās alts and shills.
Thatās hilarious!!!
Eve used to have a similar fee to renew your clone.
Of course now itās free.
As far as taxes goā¦miners, haulers, and mission runners already pay taxes. Those taxes should be used to actually protect HS playes by paying to police it.
Thatās a lie. The only forced tax is for market transactions.
Those taxes already pay for CONCORD, and youāre getting quite the value for your money.
2 Likes
HS already has a punishment force.
Simply form up an alliance, have an indy/krabbing wing to fund your AG.
It not hard
Antigankers must hate knowing that miners refuse to pay them, and instead the miners are paying me. Hahahaha, itās pretty funny tbh.
I guess charisma is an important attribute!
1 Like
Not at all.
I fly Freighters, Jump Freighters, Orca, Bowhead, DSTs, Blockade Runners and even T1 Haulers (rarely) over the entire cluster and believe ganking is fine. If anything, the cat and mouse game is lopsided too far in my favour, but the balance is where CCP thinks it needs to be so ok.
Ganking provides risk and challenge in the hauling game that at least gives some differentiation between different hauling services and allows the good ones to charge a premium for services.
CONCORD are bots. They donāt really need to be paid, but Lore wise, Iām sure they are pretty well off. Absolutely 0 risk to themselves as well. Thatās a pretty good gig.
Some people think that CONCORD is a humanoid force, but if you pay attention to lore you will notice numerous references to rogue drones, autothysian lancers, and sleepy space alien trigsolarians. The awful truth, hidden from the plebians, is that CONCORD is an illegal terrorist bot network. It automatically attacks and engages lawful police forces, and protects those who destroy our natural asteroid environments.
O what about if AGās become the Gās and only gank people with mining permitās.
Much harder blow to Gās.
Soon the miners will give up on buying mining permits because they will get ganked either way.
Concord destroy all who oppose their system, they are Tyrants.
Biomassing an alt with a negative sec status is a surefire way to attract the attention of a GM; theyāll want to know why, and youād better have a good reason.
Rolling 3 alts on an alpha account, getting them to -10 and then just moving onto another alpha account and repeating on the other handā¦
/scuttles back into the darkness
2 Likes
I always find that itās best to cry it all out before addressing the problem.
1 Like