One Way to Balance High-Security Space 🗡

[Most_Moliko]

Don’t worry, there are other forums that people can discuss without heavy handed policies. Those forums are the ones leading to the current decline. CCP is not listening to the outstanding issues for high sec players and don’t see players passing the first loss threshold.

[Gix_Firebrand]

@Most_Moliko

It is not nerfed
it is easy to gank
it is easy to draw concord away from the battle.

Uh. You can’t draw CONCORD away from the battle. It’s clear you don’t understand the mechanics of the game LOL.

@Most_Moliko

you people get 100% guaranteed kills. there are few ways to avoid it and you are engaging in a propaganda battle in these forums to cloak the fact you have exploited the game to the point that there is

NO RISK FOR THE ATTACKER NOW!

Stop with the lies.

Oh? How did I survive getting ganked then?

There are tons of ways to avoid it. And the kill is only guaranteed when people don’t practice basic opsec.

@Most_Moliko

I am not here to talk about these kinds of solutions. i am here to expose the gankers as liars and that they talk about risk for everyone in the game. BUT THERE IS NO RISK FOR GANKERS. A bunch of catalysts blowing up after destroying a freighter is hardly risk.

Maybe when hauling billlions, maybe I dunno, avoid a system reknown for being gate camped?

[Most_Moliko]

Now why are you not deleting this persons posts? He pretty much says the same thing every single time.

[Gix_Firebrand]

This is your problem in a nutshell my quafely friend.

I notice you also dodged all my points

Your problem is there are in game situations to deal with all of these things.

Except you just wanna cry to daddy CCP to save you.

That’s the difference boyo.

[Io_Koval]

@Most_Moliko

Now why are you not deleting this persons posts? He pretty much says the same thing every single time.

Personal attacks are the go to of people who cannot make rational arguments. Do better.

[Most_Moliko]

You yet to have any real point to be made, and at risk to being deleted again, I will repeat my point which you are ignoring.

There is no risk to the ganker.

You consistently refuse to admit what you already know to be true.

[Max_Deveron]

@Most_Moliko

There is no risk to the ganker.

what risk is there to the non-ganker?

[Io_Koval]

@Most_Moliko

There is no risk to the ganker.

If ganking is risk free and unbalanced rewards why aren’t you doing it already?

[Aiko_Danuja]

@Io_Koval

ganking is risk free and unbalanced

Sounds like a good gig!

[Ramona_McCandless]

@Most_Moliko

There is no risk to the ganker.

1 ship loss
2 so what

[Aiko_Danuja]

Wait, so you are saying gankers risk their ships?

Like, if a ganker shoots someone, their ship explodes automatically?

I bet gankers have to be precise!

[Ramona_McCandless]

Actually thats a fair point, its not a risk at all

It a guarunteed loss.

I guess the risk must be the plenty of AG the CSM says there is.

Why is this thread still open anyway?

[Gix_Firebrand]

@Most_Moliko

You yet to have any real point to be made, and at risk to being deleted again, I will repeat my point which you are ignoring.

There is no risk to the ganker.

You consistently refuse to admit what you already know to be true.

Actually bruv, I presented facts. You presented opinons

There is risk to the ganker, if people even followed a modicum of good game sense.

There is a ton of risk to the gankers, IF people followed basic things.

1. Fit a tank. Once the guns start blapping, they on the clock. You beat the clock, you beat them.
2. Go around Uedama
3. Fit travel fits
4. Move blingy stuff on off times if going thru known ganker regions

Bro, just learn how to EVE.

[Qia_Kare]

I think what is poorly explained about the subject of ganking ‘risk’ is that ‘risk’ is a double ended thing, at least with respect to how I see the word actually used. Take 3 gumball machines as an example.

Machine #1 always takes a quarter and always gives you a gumball for it. Nobody is going to say you’re risking your quarter here.

Machine #2 sometimes will take your quarter, but always gives you a gumball. People will say you’re risking your quarter here since you may or may not lose it.

Machine #3 will always take your quarter, but will only sometimes give you a gumball. Again, people will say you’re risking your quarter because only sometimes will you receive something for it.

Ganking risk is like machine #3. The cost is paid, but the rewards are not guaranteed.

[Most_Moliko]

The insincerity of gankers arguing that there is risk when there is clearly no risk, is an absolute farce. Just because a bunch of cheap catalysts blow up in the battle. The cost to the ganker is minimal while the cost to the ganked person is overwhelmingly higher.

Arguing this absurdity of comparisons really makes me sick, but the zkillboard keeps track of b’s killed vs the b’s lost so stop with the games.

[Most_Moliko]

Where is the forum moderator, this poster is saying the same thing OVER AND OVER AND OVER again.

[Max_Deveron]

@Most_Moliko

The cost to the ganker is minimal while the cost to the ganked person is overwhelmingly higher.

what is the Risk of a non-ganker?

[Most_Moliko]

Your using a false argument, you know the truth your just spouting ganker propaganda.

Again we are not talking about ending the “Gank” we want to end the NO RISK GANKING.

[Max_Deveron]

answer the question.

what risk is there to the non-ganker?

[Most_Moliko]

@Aiko_Danuja

Wait, so you are saying gankers risk their ships?

Like, if a ganker shoots someone, their ship explodes automatically?

I bet gankers have to be precise!

So precise, you may assume they use bots. I see the same Safety player running 7 catalysts ganking risk free every day.