Here is the issue. I found an item on the market that was being bought for 20 mil ISK through a Market Buy order and was being sold for 13.5 mil ISK through a Market Sell order. So I purchsed seven items to fulfill the Buy order.
When I sold the first item in the same station, where the 20 mil Market Buy order was posted, the item sold to a Market Buy order four jumps away for 21,140 ISK. I have done enough order fulfilling in Jita to know that the order in the station is always filled first, which makes me think this some type of botting activity because the Buy order four jumps away now has a component that is worth 8,071,000 ISK in Jita that they only paid 21,140 ISK for.
How is this done? Iâm not certain, because the Buy for 20 mil should have been filled in the station and not four jumps away seeing as how I am limited to buying and selling in stations and cannot remote sell.
It could be that the scripting for the Buy order four jumps away at 21,140 ISK is actually the 20 mil Buy order in station. Instead of the orders for both being fulfilled, the order gets sent to some bot account that exists in the ether of the servers. Neither amount for the item in the Buy order reduced by one, which the station four jumps away should have reduced to 79 items but remained at 80 items.
What also makes me think this was a bot market account is the name of the player buying the item four jumps away which is Gallente Citizen 1275687558, which we all know is a telltale sign of Bot Activity as the bot player doesnât want to be readily recognizable. If it is a bot market account the player would probably be Caldari based as the Caldari value nothing more than ISK and will do anything to get a lot of it without spending very much.
After that one I simply donât bother analyzing this and simply think that you are jumping to conclusions that fit for your arguments.
Do you even know how those names are generated?
And as said above, minimum quantity column is best bet so far.
Read that skill description once againâŚ
Also, click show info on that guy in game, hamburger menu (top left of the show info window), report bot. CCP will decide if it is bot. And you even will get email back if you where right. CCP wonât take actions based on forum post and most of CCP employed donât read forums.
I might be bit harsh on you, but only because you assume bad things without proper knowledge of mechanics. That result in you learning incorrect things. When you see something suspicious, just hit that âreport botâ button. It cost you nothing and is no risk to players that did nothing wrong. Also, first checks are done by computer so it donât bring more work to GMâs
none of your screenshots show anything that suggests bot activity.
what it does show is that you have no idea how the âMinimum Quantityâ setting on buy orders works.
TL;DR dryson gets baited on a free 6.5m flip, scams himself by selling for an absurdly low amount, tries to pass it off as bot activity to get his 13.5m refunded.
There is no minimum quantity that shows up in the Buyers section.
I have never had this problem in Jita. I have never changed the settings on how items are fulfilled based on Buyerâs requests. Not once have I been in a station in Jita fulfilling the Buyerâs order that plainly shows the order in station, suddenly fulfilling a Buy order four jumps away from a lot less then the station that has the same item being asked for by the Buyer.
When you open the regional market window, grab the RHS and pull to make the window wider. I suspect you will see two additional columns appear in the Buyers Section: âmin volumeâ and âexpires inâ.
If not, you will need to find how to add them back.
I suspect you are a troll bot, and anti Caldari stench of Gallente if I ever smelled it.
You bring accusation and no proof.
Failure of a moderate order, not worth noting.
Waste of time if any ever existed.
I should have simply replied with nou and been done with it.
Market Bots were eliminated a few years ago. I do know that from when I started in 2006 all the way up until around 2015 or 2016 (canât remember when CCP eliminated them), it was a huge, huge, huge problem. It really super sucked. I trained up a perfect Jita trader with Caldari standings grinding for weeks for like a year or something only to discover that people were cheating and there wasnât any way to sell there anyway. That is because people were running scripts to automatically drop prices by .01 ISK 24/7. No way a human could compete and it was very extremely obvious. I complained about it for years.
My Jita trader has been a work for a few years now, when I have time to log, and you no longer see these .01 or 1 automated changes anymore. Now price drops are not matched for hours or even days because human players are having to manually adjust prices like it was always supposed to be. I applaud CCP for this. It was one of the worst things ever. But they certainly do look gone. I have not seen anything that even looks close to automation for a long time now.
.01 game is not measurement of a bot. Itâs as dumb assumption as saying that guy that is online every time Iâm online is a bot because he is always onlineâŚ
You just needed two people competing for item and prices where changing every second. But that doesnât make them bots
And changes to market was done on march 10. Not in 2015-2016.
Wow, has it really been that long? My estimate was way off. Itâs hard to believe that it has been half a of a decade since CCP eliminated the market bot scripts. Hell, I think they were for sale on ebay at some point, thatâs how common market bot scripts were.
I very extremely and clearly remember when you could not sell anything at all at Jita, because within minutes or seconds the bot scripts would drop the price by .01. It wasnât an imagination or a fallacy. thatâ what was actually going down and that is why CCP stepped in and did what was the only right thing to do and shut those down.
If market bots still exist I would suspect they are extremely rare. I have not seen any instances that would even cause suspect well,in years. I donât recall when CCP fixed that, but they did fix it.
Market change was not introduced to fight bots. Same as roaming trigs in hisec in the beginning of invasion. Just because something has impact on current bot software, doesnât mean it is main goal of the feature.
Players made them âbot killersâ and only players.
I hope CCP will someday do something against market buy bots. I manually place thousands of buy orders per month⌠on most of them the buy bots offer the minimal isk more fully automized, in a fraction of a second, after me placing buy orders manually in public stations and putting the isk in the market system.
The bot offers are not placed in public stations as placed buy orders and the bots do not actually place a buy order on the public station for the region. The bot also does not place isk in the market, its not a normal placed buy offer. The bot buy offers are always active in less than a second, no matter which station or region.
Its going on for so many years now, please do something against auto offer bots @CCP_Dopamine
Its probably pro credit card, real money traders, doing it since years.
