Price change on steam monthly price for OMEGA

Stop embarrassing yourself.

He already stated he was going to stop wasting time with this:

He will opt not to pay the higher price it seems. So then it boils down to basic lemonade stand economics. If CCP charges too high in a region they may actually end up with less revenue, at which point they may have to revisit their pricing, as I mentioned before.

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Yes. Yes it does. By definition that makes you an amateur pasta chef. Stop embarrassing yourself.

Yes you did, by uselessly quoting average statistics instead of finding median statistics, like a bad economist would to try to tell him what average livelihood would be, when really median livelihood is closer to the truth.

Already showed your numbers were crap, no further work needed from me here.

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So whats your definition of Amateur, then?

And when did I ever apply those averages to him, and his income?

Seeing as how you ignored half my arguments against you, i guess you took your own advice of:

And stopped responding to them.

Good for you.

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Average income is like income brutto. We have an joke about brutto income here: it’s like to provide lenght of my d*** along with lenght of my spine. That’s how accurate it is.

Cheaper prices worked like forever on steam, they don’t have the tools to check it out?

Unfair for whom? I have zero influence on my country currency pucharsing value.

CCP just removed maybe 1/6 subbing playerbase. Higher plex prices will finish the job (irelevant why plex prices rises for current discussion).

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I gave you the chance to stop embarrassing yourself, but yet you keep on… Seriously, stop embarrassing yourself.

When you posted an embarrassing link showing embarrassing bad statistics on average income.

That’s cause your “arguments” are embarrassingly unworthy.

Nope.

Just because you repeat it, doesnt make it true. Were not in a cult, here, you know.

Again, why dont you come at me with actual arguments and evidence, and, y’know, not opinions.

I dont think you understood the question, so ill rephrase.

Do you understand the difference between an income of a specific individual, and the average income of a country?

Yes or no?

If your answer is yes, then…

Do you understand that stating what the average income of a country is, is in no way a measure of how much money any specific individual makes?

If your answer is yes, then…

Do you understand that @James_Budweiser was the one who stated what he thought the average monthly salary is, and that he didnt state what the median income was?

If your answer to all those is Yes, then please, explain how I applied those averages, to him.

Me: Long, step-by-step refutation of your arguments
You: “Stop embarassing yourself!”
Me: “So refute them. Should be easy, right?”
You: “Nope!”
Me:
tenor

I feel as though this thread is getting off topic, so just to pretty much end this discussion by demonstrating how youre wrong…

Yeah, youre right, I shouldve used the median…

Wait, my character name isnt James Budweiser.

James: Average income in Poland is…
Me: Actually, according to official statistics, its this.
You: Average is useless. If you were serious, you would have used median.
Me: Yes, maybe you shouldve used the median, James. Oh, youre talking to me. Why? I just corrected him on what the official statistics are.
You: An outsider shouldnt use his governments statistics to tell him how much money he makes!
Me: Look, all I did was correct him. Whether you think the government was corrupt or sketchy is your opinion, but thats the statistics we have.
You: Stop embarrasing yourself!

Please, re-read this topic from the beginning.

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You talk about evidence but have provided nothing but garbage. I provided statistics showing your numbers were garbage. You never acknowledged my arguments, so I don’t have to acknowledge yours. Rules of the internet, sorry I don’t make them.

So I can do this too, you’re wrong… :rofl:

I see youve devolved to “No U” arguments.

Sad.

Truth be told it was obvious right from the start that he has nothing to say.

Well… At least we have seen some numbers related to Poland and average salaries.

Nope.

You do realize most players do not visit these forums anyways, so they’re not going to see that you lost a long time ago… :rofl:

Yes, you are.

Merged duplicate topic

M Cincinnatus is right about statistics on income.

If there aren’t clear definitions of what’s being reported, they’re probably inaccurate, perhaps deliberately (this can include Government statistics as well as other sources) or reported by clueless people (also very common).

  • Is it salary or income? “Salary” in English doesn’t cover all sources of income, and plenty of people have good incomes but no salary. This could be a translation issue, but it could easily be deliberate misdirection.
  • “Average” isn’t a precise term. The two common ones for income are mean and median. If income data is captured fully and accurately (more or less - it’s always affected by tax planning), the mean is usually significantly skewed upwards. The median is a much better aggregate statistic, and if it’s not used, and specified as being used, you need to be skeptical
  • A lack of precision in how standard deductions are handled (tax, compulsory medical insurance, etc) is also a bad sign
  • In some countries it’s relatively easy to e.g. convert income into wealth, and thereby avoid tax on it (along with other “tax planning” techniques). This reduces the reported income of people who might otherwise have very high incomes
  • How are exceptions like non-earners (e.g. children) and recipients of transfer payments (pensions etc) handled?
  • … this list goes on and on.

Bottom line: I haven’t seen any obviously useful statistics about Poland quoted in the thread. The numbers quoted look like they’ve been deliberately skewed upwards.

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I even specifically, directly quoted each person according to the timeline that they posted.

And your only reply is “nope”.

I guess that really just demonstrates how you have no argument.

Thanks for playing. You’re right, they’re not going to see that I lost a long time ago, because I didnt.

Arguments and evidence always beats opinions and one word replies, any day. Good luck on your minimum wage life, though!

Happy cake day! :smiley:
Don’t think bad about Solonius, the forums made him super bitter. :slight_smile:

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Im pretty sure you havent been reading our discussions.

I saw this one line …

… and knew I didn’t need to. You having to reply just yet again makes it clear how bitter and disconnected you have grown. I’m not going to play with you, sorry. :slight_smile:

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Wow, youve become really cynical, havent you.

I agree that average, or median income is useless in determining what income any one person receives, Youre forgetting the aspects of where this information is coming from that would make it more likely to skew it lower, than higher.

The government is getting this information via their information on how much people need to pay in taxes, and almost no one wants to pay taxes, let alone more than they have to, and most people will try to find ways to under-represent or report their income as lower. Combine that with instances such as:

Cash businesses will often report lower profits in order to pay less taxes.

People will often do under-the-table deals with cash in order to forgo reporting the income made.

Rich people will almost always find ways to avoid paying taxes, which almost always involves reporting less than what they actually made.

Im probably missing a few, but all of these contribute to statistics that lower the average, instead of skewing them upwards.