Price change on steam monthly price for OMEGA


(Forum Posting Alt) #103

Why am I subsidising poor people? it’s not like they appreciate it…

Dear CCP, can I have free isk to make up the difference? :imp:


(Dracvlad) #104

I think the basis of the plex system was a good idea to enable time rich players to balance against time poor but rich in RL players. But Plex is a little out of kilter due to people playing the market with it and of course the impact of excessive multi-boxing which creates too much liquidity for some which destroys the immersion of the game for many. And often the attempts to put in ISK sinks to balance against it kill the game for new players.

They pulled back a bit on alpha’s in terms of level 4’s, because CCP want people to subscribe and I can understand that, it has to be the right balance. But you are totally right that as compared to before there are options for people to continue playing, and taking Alpha breaks as needed to be able to fund it, doing selective real life cash or converting ISK to plex for game time. Alpha however is too limited in a number of areas, mining and PI for a start, but I understand and accept that it was more of a stepping stone to Omega status.


(March rabbit) #105

You just repaying for hundreds years of poor countries subsidizing richer ones :wink:


(Brewlar Kuvakei) #106

This is a good move by CCP. Power purchase is a fallacy on digital goods as you experince the same cost delivering the product regardless of end user location. Ie supplying an active eve connection to Ethopia incurs the same cost as doing so to the US of A. So why should the African get the service cheaper? If they can’t make the service cost then dump them, they provide no value as a customer.

With tangible goods this of course is not the same and you should expect variance between regions.

Steam eve also had a lot of region hoppers using the various proxy steam price sites to find the best deal.


(Jannah) #107

It makes no sense that making money is bad, CCP has two choices make money or make no money, why pick the latter?


(Jannah) #108

And saying that players that are paying less is complete nonsense, Blizzard localized WoW to Brazilian portuguese, dubbed the game in portuguese and has workers here in Brazil and yet the subscription for WoW is lesser than the one for Eve.


(Jannah) #109

I’m gonna be using the same amount of the servers data when I go Alpha, the only difference is that CCP will not be receiving anything from me.
If everyone paid the same I wouldn’t be complaining, but there’s people from richer countries paying less than I am, so how come they send me a message saying that it’s important that everyone pays the same when the neighboring country that has a better economy is paying half of what I am paying???


(Drago Shouna) #110

I can never understand some arguments, arguments like this.

Why on earth do players from poor countries and poor economies pick the most expensive subscription game to play?

Why the hell am I paying 3 times more than someone else from a different country?

There’s lots of people in the world these days screaming for more and more equality, but obviously paying the same for games isn’t included.


(Zachri) #111

Cost per account. Things have changed.


(Hato Totient) #112

Paying the same is included as well as earning the same.


(Zayisha Andara) #113

Without that, we would have been even way farther than that. Our current Systems slows technological progress down.
Further we produce way to much and to unefficent.
Also 99% are working and are poor while 1% get’s richer without doing anything.
It’s like a body that became a victim to a parasite which is slowly killing it.


(Zayisha Andara) #114

Simple answer. Imagine:
Person A (Europe) pays 15€/M.
Person B (Russia) pays 15€/M.
Person C (China) pays 15€/M.

Guess! They are not paying the “same”.


(safira jomita) #115

Not quite, you are forgetting the taxes . Taxes here in Brazil are absurd, some products like electronics, have Cascade taxes that combined can reach 70%. So it can reach much more than 58 BRL


(March rabbit) #116

It’s more complex than that.

Let’s do an experiment:
Remove one of players. Look at 30€/M you have in company wallet and try to say which player you removed (one from Europe, one from Russia or one from China?).

Impossible, isn’t it? 15€/M is 15€/M no matter where it came from.

Now you can say that you are talking about spending and not about paying. This makes sense but you should consider that people are different. Even in the same country you have very different wealth. So even for two players from China the same 15€/M is completely different values.

You will talk about average salaries. But you should understand that since EvE is not average entertainment then it would be wrong to expect EvE players be equally spread over population thus making averaged salaries bad approximation to purchasing power of actual and potential players.

(huh, wall of text!)


(safira jomita) #117

Totally agree with you, being from South America that raise will be a hard hit, still wondering continue playing or not, cause alpha is meh , but 70% raise seems abusive to me


(Jeremiah Saken) #118

Wasn’t there cheaper sub option for russian players like forever?


(Aurelie Maulerant) #119

So it’s not just Brazil, they’ve also increased prices in some other countries. That sucks since fewer player means less content in the sandbox.

Hmmm. Now I’m debating if I should extend my sub another year while the prices are still low in my local currency. It would be a no brainier if I didn’t take long breaks every couple of months.


(Brewlar Kuvakei) #120

Welcome to equality plebs. You make the cut or not. Face facts CCP has monthly costs attributed to supplying your sub, it made no sense to run omega subs at a loss. CCP is operating at a below desired base line as evident of the redundancy off staff.

Alpha exists as a draw to omega that is all.


(Lugburz) #121

Im not normal tyvm.


(Juris Pheonix) #122

I know it’s an unpopular opinion, but everyone should probably pay a flat rate. Otherwise, you get certain groups of players who use VPN’s and other tech shenanigans to subscribe their multibox army for way less than they should be paying. EVE is also a game, not a physical need like food and water. Eat out less, run fewer characters, or increase what you earn in-game and PLEX. Even in the US, I have to budget for all my accounts every month, and I’m by no means poor.

That’s just how life goes.