Multiple hours of theorycrafting specifically for each meta, getting your ass out of the hole / home null citadel to jita, buying / building stuff, then 15 minutes, another 15 minutes, incremental work on your fits as you get more experience, some extra time for logistics, then another 15 minutes. That’s what will happen instead of a “tiny, limited 15 minutes”.
Sure, it could be a net positive for EVE, since my very first posts i conceded that. But in the posts you were replying to I was not talking about EVE in general, i was talking about its open world part and people which love EVE for it - and those will have fewer players to play with.
Oh, and tbh it feels quite shitty that my posts are either get unintentionally misread or deliberately misinterpreted for the sake of promoting someone’s agenda.
Can anyone provide data how overlapping is the open world PvP group with the competitive PvP group? One is mostly about exploding peeps when they are in their ventures or herons in low sec or on gate, the other is about actual competition with PvP targets that will not run, just saying. Seems quite different style of doing PvP. So the making of competitive option more accessible to not overlapping group is not very hurting to open world PvP. Thats my sort of 2 ISKs to the discussion how it will not “hurt” anything.
We do both for example … and most of competetive players are not live in outer space … they are also roaming around in New Eden too … When they are not only saddening around after cancelled AT tournaments of course… its still kinda sad …But instead of go dormant … they put energy and effort to build up player created competetive platforms … they are still up for this community and and high quality PvP
One more thing about overlapping, how targets for the groups overlap? And which are easier to find? If the tarhgets are not interested in comptitive PvP anyway, but are in the world as targets anyway, their number will not diminish. But with addition to finding competitive fights easier, the group that does both will actually have more targets in less time, isnt it?
Why don’t you create an arena game on a different server altogether? Hell, make a complete new game for it. IF you really think this (in my opinion horrible) addition will be a success doesn’t it deserve a universe on its own?
that was also my suggestion … there is organisations in eve running these competetions … Why CCP doesnt provide them an enviroment … NOT sis but similair set up like Thunderdome where things and conditions easier to keep under survelliance and control . Or why not empower them ?
Yes, the triglavian arenas are actually just an arena, the fleets still have to be organized. It is empowering to give tools in game to those who will use them.
we are sharing ideas here… and coming with different ideas… Noone whining here… if you would like to write something and i you have any opinions please come with some constructive ideas …
Are Edencom players banned from entering?
Are Edencom players attacked by Trigs if they can enter?
Can you gain/lose Trig/Edencom standings?
Any impact at all to the current Trig Invasion?
Or is this something outside of the current Trig story line…something we will just overlook.
Why is this on the server that everyone uses? To make it inclusive and available to all, and the loss still will matter, as win. As it is in the New Eden common world environment.
Torvald, who spends all his time doing abyssals…stated that this is what the majority of the complaints of abyssals addresses, So according to one who is very knowledgeable about this, yes CCP did listen.
Again…its just a few who showed up today with wine, cheese, and salt.
Catch him on Talking in Stations and atm 5v5scrims.
and im totally agree with that idea too… and of course it can be done too… but then again i would like to remind you one of the pilots mentioned… Those some of “competetive” players also dont want real killmails. and dont want to hurt their Zkillboards with mass losses …
but of course all these are possibilities… but there is also reality…
honestly i had asked those 2 discord servers… over 600 pilots… that lests take some fights but my people dont take fights in SISI we are fight club concept and old mutual war tradition… we do real fights with real results…
guess how many accepted come and fight with us ???
only one.
after couple of dozen people ask to join and they turn back and refuse and their reason was (we dont want real killmails ) my discord direct messages full of these conversations
this is my friend experience ! tested and results obtained
i dont find myself in a place to judge anyone…
but i had just shared the experience …
i have to remove my add from channel as result…
Then i had write again and told them we are accepting solo and team base fights in our arena in Tranquility server…
noone sent direct message to me after that …
just for the name of taking couple of step back and look at the view again .
CCP introduced instance PVP .
They had put limits for the ships like T1 but there is nothing about modules and pods.
This means people coming 5 bil pirate implant pods and 500 mil isk fitted T1 frigates if they do know the fittings mechanics and bit piloting skills… Wins against every team coming there with max T2 fitted ships and empty pods… or other option … only those kind of people go there for to be competetive… Result:
Every match will be winners and loosers… and FACT : most serious competetive players dont want real killmails. ( so point ? )
About people like me who loves to fly empty pods and max t2 fitted t1 line ships and crazy for good fights and give noo ■■■■ to their killboards… Do i go up against 5b pod and 500m fitted friages with my 6m isk fitted kestrel ? does that give me a good heart beating joyfull fun fight ? if thats not an option… then whats the meaning of going competetive…?
if not only my piloting skills fittings and theory crafting on the table but their isk will win ?
the best PVP is the pvp in natural enviroment … Seeking for your prey… hunting… knowing your engagement profile… sometimes taking fights from pilots may be you have even %10 chance to win… but that gives all thrill… taste… taste of hunting …
