As I said, it’s about people and not about mechanics.
Let me give you an example… A security guard who stands watch 8 hours a day without any incidents occurring is still a security guard. He still provides safety, has a job to do and needs to be paid. A guard who isn’t at his post isn’t doing the job even when no incidents take place or when he’s been watching something else that he isn’t supposed to.
Also, a security guard in a control room isn’t actually guarding when all he has to do is to respond to a signal. It’s the electronic systems that are doing the guarding job for him. Technically is it an operator and not a guard.
So when you want to have warning systems, which are technically not a problem at all, are you in fact changing the role you’re supposed to play and one which you’ve signed up for.
I’m not saying roles cannot change. It’s just not really necessary when there is so much else you can do. I do actually like mining the way it is. I also don’t like gankers, but I do like it when I get away before they kill me, because I was paying attention. The game works just fine for me.
If you’re comparing security guards with miners, I’d say they’re equally boring but you have to pay the former about $20000 a year to do that job. Nobody is paying miners. Games are supposed to be fun.
Oh and security guards sit around watching broadcast TV or reading magazines…
Yeah, because you and you alone mine absolutely 100% of all ore in EVE. If you decide to not mine and instead do something more engaging, nobody else will mine either.
How do you know that? Can you read the minds of every player out there? Because I can guarantee that you’re wrong on that one. There actually are people that enjoy mining. Whether they’re a little crazy in the head is another question, but these people exist.
Wow, you don’t even understand your own suggestion. Not that that really surprises me.
Every miner that’s got 3 working braincells left will run away, as they stand no chance of winning that fight. It’s the only logical option.
I already explicitly told you that I have no interest in that, but it’s okay. You’ve proven well enough that you can’t read, let alone comprehend. All you can do is pull ■■■■■■■■ out of your ass and make up lies in a sorry attempt at making an argument. That may be how it works in Loki Orkund Magic Filter Bubble World, but that’s not how it works in the real world.
Miners still have to haul it back and pass it off to a trader before they’re being paid, but they do get paid. And you can watch TV or read a book while mining.
But I think that’s not really your point. I’m guessing it’s the part where you have to pay attention to the game while really you want to pay attention to something outside the game. You cannot really do this in most games. Even a single-player game can require you to press pause or it’ll just keep running.
But we’re not talking abut me. We’re talking about literally all miners in Eve.
Because I can guarantee that you’re wrong on that one.
Really? Would you put $10000 on it? Cos I’m happy to hire a lie detector for that kind of money if you can find someone who’ll testify to that.
Wow, you don’t even understand your own suggestion. Not that that really surprises me.
No, you’re just arrogant enough to think you understand it better than anyone else. Typical Gen Z.
Every miner that’s got 3 working braincells left will run away, as they stand no chance of winning that fight. It’s the only logical option.
Go gank miners in a busy system them if you’re too pussy to take on PvPers. Miners won’t be docking up every minute someone new jumps into the system.
Or force them to stay docked all day. Dock at a station all day and go play in the sun. Or just pretend you did.
While CovOps cloaks are in the game, it’s pretty hard to get spotted on D scan before you can be right next to an unaware miner. That’s how I get most of my kills.
I already explicitly told you that I have no interest in that
Yes but you’re utterly unconvincing. And you’re got zero arguments against the suggestion but spending hours fighting against it.
No one is forcing you to pay attention, but you have to accept the fact that you are at risk when AFK. There will never be a module like the one you suggest.
You have to accept that the mining part of the game would be vastly better if there was.
And PvP would be improved too, for anyone who doesn’t need AFK “kills” to pad their kill sheet.
I watch the overview, not just because of gankers, but also to see which rocks are still there and who else is in the belt mining with me. I also have a chat open where I talk with my friends. 4 hours pass quickly.
I’m not sure why you think those reasons you made up that it would improve PvP are somehow convincing someone. It is blatantly obvious that what you want is to avoid losing ships while not having to invest the time to actually make mining secure by yourself.
You’re the only one whining about not being able to AFK mine without consequences. So yeah, we’re talking literally only about you. This is your ridiculous idea in your ridiculous thread. It wasn’t made by a collective hive-mind of all miners in EVE.
Your dad wouldn’t be happy when you steal his credit card and use it for something like that.
I’m sorry, are you really claiming to be everyone else? Might want to go see a psychologist.
For the third time, I do not gank AFK miners. How often are you trying to accuse me of that? If some moron in nullsec is afk mining, then yeah, I kill him, because why wouldn’t I. But I hardly ever kill mining ships in nullsec, or anywhere else for that matter.
I’m done arguing with a 10 year old that’ll never bring it to more than being a toilet scrubber.
This is not a debate. i don’t have to argue for anything. You presented your idea for your new module and almost everyone told you this is a dumb idea and why.
It is your job to convince people that your idea is worth implementing, and so far you just made a really poor attempt to construct some obvious lies around the benefits of your idea. Seriously who do you think you are deceiving with this?
And this is what you believe. You believe you don’t have to justify your desire to block improving the mining game nor any of your ad hominem attacks.
Yeah, we didn’t need to you put it in writing to know that.
almost everyone told you this is a dumb idea and why
No, three people who have failed for two days now to provide a counterargument and want us to believe that they’re not desparate to keep their AFK “kills”… told me it was a dumb idea.
I was quite polite to you really.
The two legitimate counterarguments, I’ve summarised above. Unlike you three, I’m happy to present a fair appraisal of the suggestion.
Seriously who do you think you are deceiving with this?
