Should CCP let you buy rights to a ship as an alpha player

Any feature introduced to the game which has the effect of increasing the power, skill-base or income of non-Omega players, will be abused to hell and back. It just will.

Now, that may not in itself be sufficiently good reason not to add such features, because exploits can be fixed, but there is always the danger of ‘creep’. Power-creep, skillpoint-creep, wealth-creep. In order to keep a cap on such tendencies, CCP may find it necessary to nerf Alpha play in order to preserve disparities.

You will not, I know, need me to indicate here what the effect tends to be of nerfing anything in EVE.

Introducing Alpha clones was a decision by the company which came with upsides and downsides. I doubt it has the stomach for further tinkering. The introduction of a ‘Delta’ clone might be a good idea, as also might be the creation of any other clone obscurely labelled with a letter of the Greek alphabet and designed to offer increased or reduced access to the game’s features (‘Gamma’ for Veterans, anyone?).

I’m happy to leave it as it is.

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yea i think a Delta clone would work well this is a really good post btw. the main issue with omega is the price if they added a in-between tier it would improve the experience and make them more money. so yea i think a delta clone is a better idea than mine. :slight_smile:

i hate the people that abuse these kinds of things it just makes the game worse for everyone else

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sorry bout that

Maybe ?

No idea what it does though …


IMO linking the right to the ship is a nonsense. Because you also need modules, and the cost should be low enough that it does not make a cheap ship an excruciating loss.

As it is done now with expert system, it makes more sense to me.


hmm maybe this one was not good

This one maybe ? lasts 7 days, does it unlock the ships for alphas ?

If I had to guess, it probably contains a lot of the SKINR skills (sequencing speed, listing, design slots, etc.)

Yes, but I was looking from the NES and actually complaining that the gain is not clear ^^
Sneaky bitter vet strikes again, sssssss

But you are right, I provided an ig link that says so.

Agreed. Not sure why they don’t indicate what skills are enhanced.

Because otherwise we’d find something else to complain against.
It’s a diversion strategy.

:mage: (can’t find a tinfoil hat sry)

I think it’s an oversight. I’ll mention it in the SKINR Discord. Already heard back from CCP - they’re passing this along to the team that puts those together.

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Do you know if the Expert Systems (ES) also unlock the ship for an alpha ?

Which specific Expert System?

AFAIK the barge one gives access to omega-only ships.

That’s a good question - I honestly don’t know the answer.

it allows them to use the barges, but afterwards no, they can’t sit in a barge.

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I see no issue with this idea. But due consideration given to the ship, and supporting skills it will require / unlock. Or maybe it won’t meaning it will neer be flown to it’s full potential, or maybe it can be but only with further one off payments to unlock to the skill sets.

I don’t even care, I’m out of this game.

yea me to i quit