Solution to the Empire ganking trend

[Scipio_Artelius]

@R_Rage

Most post’s end up as flame bait or trolled so I saw no point in having say.

They aren’t trolled. People have different opinions, so just because someone’s opinion differs, doesn’t make their post a troll of any other.

It’s also true that it is just as possible that the original post in a thread is a troll, not the responses, as there is nothing about an original post that necessarily makes it immune from error, or emotion, or unvalidated opinion, etc.

This very OP for example has several mistakes and views that if validated before posting, would never have made their way to the post.

For example:

@R_Rage

I’ve read a fair few posts now regarding the empire ganking. To which I agree does seem to be slightly out of hand now.

Yet ganking has been on the decline for the last 3 years. I had a post somewhere that analysed it in detail, but in any case, this is the trend in ganking, based on killmail data:

In fact, comparing that to other ship classes, there are more than double the number just capital losses per week in the game, then there are ships ganked in highsec:

The reduction in ganking has occured during a period where the playerbase hasn’t declined by as much. It’s far from out of hand.

@R_Rage

What caused this to explode to what it is now was the clever individual that introduced Criminal Dog tags being cashed in to fix sec status.

Remove this option. Go back to the old school way of fixing sec status (Ratting) and you’ll see a big change.

I’d love to see (Insesrt first name) Kusion ratting his 20 odd accounts to fix sec status.

The amount of isk being made from ganking cover’s ship loss, criminal tags purchase and profit.

Gankers don’t use security tags. They don’t need to.

The last time this came up:

Possible Pirate Flag?

The devblog from CCP when security tags were introduced was pretty clear about the target audience for the tags. That was based on aims to: get people out in space, particularly in lowsec alternative method for reformed outlaws to get back to highsec Tags weren’t aimed at gankers, but at lowsec pvpers, which was part of why they are only available in lowsec. However, that motivation from CCP could obviously be used differently by gankers, but it isn’t. They don’t really care about security …

Specifically in relation to the Kusion fleet, the average sec status is -10.0

They don’t care in the slightest about their sec status. It doesn’t stop them from operating, so why would they?

@R_Rage

Note: I own a freighter, yes I’ve lost one to my own stupidity, yes I can replace. But for all the new guys that join and leave Eve due to what seem’s to be a part of the game that isnt balanced, there are some easy fixes.

Freighters aren’t a new player ship.

They aren’t even really flown by new players:

Gankers and freighters, a request for discussion. Not a BJ RANT

I agree with you on this. Despite CCP explicitly calling it out as not an exploit, there are many people that either (1) haven’t read the exploits and misconceptions list, so don’t understand CCP’s position, or (2) disagree with CCP’s view and so claim it’s just crappy design, incompetence or a bad game. As to ganking itself, in the Burn Jita thread there was a claim we see often, that gankers target new players, so yesterday I took a look at the average age of Freighter/Bowhead/Orca pilots th…