Statement of CSM 15 Regarding the Upcoming Nullsec Empire War

[Mike_Azariah]

@Brun_Warbear

It’s not a war; it’s choreography.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r45RDFgYQsI I love the classics

@CowRocket_Void

If the CSM really wanted to show that they are not metagamming… they’d step down

Not gonna happen but you are welcome to run and do so when you win.

@DragoFire

If CCP wants a massive WAR, they should be exspanding the Trig vs Edencom war to cover moreregoins and get the nulsec corps to join one of these NPC forces and push its agenda.

Cool idea but then it would be a pve pvp hybrid and . . .well to a certain extent what the we are trying not to have happen. Do we want a war that is choreography and smoke and predetermined or one where the battles will or will not happen according to the actions of players?

A couple of examples for you. There was an event when Dust 514 was part of the game where we battled to defend a planet or attack it, CCP slipped and the conclusion/results of the battle were clear for us all to see BEFORE the battle was waged. All our actions meant nothing because the finale was predetermined. Suppose CCP decided that the Imperium was becoming too powerful (it could happen) and used this war as a way to hit a bit of the reset button. As the war progressed changes could be made to make set areas at a disadvantage. Sudden changes that would make moving large assets harder, keeping them problematic. The end of the war would be decided before it even began and we could all just watch it play out. Me? I don’t want that.

Second example was during an AT, remember those? A ship balance swept through DURING the AT making compositions change and have to adapt. The teams that had practiced and learned their ship inside and out now had to scramble to reset.

Sudden changes or those that obviously have an effect on a war made DURING the war will be seen as CCP trying for predetermined outcomes, again. WE are not asking for them not to make changes, just for them to make careful consideration so that a reasonable player would not see it as an act of meddling.

I know, I am asking a lot. Reasonable players, reading what was in the letter, believing me when I say that this is a reasonable thing as I do not have the time or inclination to do politics and metagaming.

The old Cynical Eve player I keep inside still whispers that this whole war could be 1) predetermined by the powerful players and organizations and (2) just a thing to keep the plebes busy or (3) not going to happen, anyways, as the self same power folks do not want to spend the energy or isk.

But another part of me is looking forward to finding out . . . to seeing huge battles and reading the propaganda from both sides.

as in the story of the two wolves? I feed the second me

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[Xeux]

Mike, we like you. You basically got all the highsec votes by the end of the voting. But you need to stay in your lane. You are not a nullsec war guy - the CSM has enough of those. Quit making excuses for the nullsec CSM guys.

[Archer_en_Tilavine]

TLDR: Mike was the worst messenger for this statement. If it came from Brisc, it would have made perfect sense. If it came from anyone else, we would have been very confused.

[Tater-nuts]

This just shows how far EvE has fallen from the glory days. There was never a need to make public statements regarding war, and I find it ironic that CSM is basically threatening CCP to stay out of the way or else.

[Wanda_Fayne]

[Brisc_Rubal]

@Xeux

Mike, we like you. You basically got all the highsec votes by the end of the voting. But you need to stay in your lane. You are not a nullsec war guy - the CSM has enough of those. Quit making excuses for the nullsec CSM guys.

I literally laughed out loud when I read this.

@Tater-nuts

This just shows how far EvE has fallen from the glory days. There was never a need to make public statements regarding war, and I find it ironic that CSM is basically threatening CCP to stay out of the way or else.

Uhhh…you must be remembering different glory days than I do, because bitching at CCP during wars has been a pretty standard thing for as far back as I can remember.

[Xeux]

I like you too Brisc, mostly because you are one of the only official nullsec guys that doesn’t take yourself seriously, at least not where it pertains to the game itself.