Ah, get this outta the way 1st.
Now the conspiracy theory kicks in! How much warning did the CSM give the null blocks on this and would it even matter?
If you donât know how public statements can be self serving you shouldnât be making them. Watch literally any political broadcast. What you choose to say in public tells people a lot.
Youâre also describing a classic conflict of interest, to which the appropriate and ethical response is not to âpromiseâ to be âimpartialâ or to shift responsibility to another party (CCP in this case) to not create a situation in which a CSM member might be construed as biased.
â â â â or get off the pot, this doublespeak â â â â â â â â is dishonest.
Iâm calling you on your â â â â â â â â . Your entire statement is an abdication of responsibility.
So the rest of the game suffers or waits to preserve your precious war? What makes this war the top priority? Why is it more important than changes to the game that may affect it?
So much for representing all players.
And protecting positions of privilege with falsehoods of impartiality.
Poor Mike. He was supposed to advocate for a better New Player Experience, but Brisc has made him the patsy for the usual CSM cloak-and-dagger metagame.
Iâm sure this was worked all out in CCPâs timeline of releases in the background already. Between CCP, Null and the CSM, were all screwedâŚ
The war is all theatre anyway.
What enemies spend months literally planning their war together in public?
Itâs not a war; itâs choreography.
The great summer scrimmage of 2020.
Can we watch on Twitch!
It does. And in this situation, the entire CSM chose to tell the players, before an issue arose, that they asked CCP to be careful in their game changes in the near future because of the war and the negative impact those changes - whether perceived or real - could have if they seem to benefit one side or the other.
Your entire premise about conflicts of interest is flawed because this is not a decision-making body. Itâs just a focus group. Nobody could actually be self-dealing here (defined as making a decision that would benefit theimselves), because - at best - theyâre just proposing or providing ideas, not deciding things. Thereâs no need for anybody to recuse themselves or resign, as you suggested (which is absurd, btw).
Mike posted the statement on behalf of the entire CSM. He was not the author, so donât attack him for being the messenger.
If you actually read the statement, youâd recognize that nowhere in it did it say we demanded they stop making any changes, even in nullsec.
Honestly, I donât see how you get from âThis does not mean, however, that they will recommend CCP stop work on potential game changes that could impact the war, simply that they carefully consider the effects of implementing any changes[,]â that weâre asking them to not do anything that could impact the war.
Wrong. Elected to represent the players by the players, and you donât have to be making a decision to effect it. Get out of here with your self-serving intellectual dishonesty.
Political advisors have no decision making power yet are subject to conflicts of interest. Your opinions are requested specifically to influence decision making. That is the whole and entire stated purpose of the CSM.
My attack is on the entire CSM, as the statement was made on their behalf. Also if you see the quote Mike specifically asked for â â â â â â â â to be called out.
Nor did I make any such claim. Donât try to put words in my mouth to build your little straw man. You have asked for changes that may affect the war to be considered in those terms over and above the rest of the game. Even if those changes are of benefit to some other aspect of the game.
Iâm out. I was trying to have a little fun. Now itâ just a troll festâŚ
edit; again.
Once Brisc shows up to educate us all - this is the inevitable result.
Over the years, I still find ANY feedback good. Brisc has been a wealth of knowledge weather I agree with him or not. At least I can tell if heâs trying to be honest or pushing his own endgame. You canât? We ALL have our own endgame in mind when we post. While I respect your opinion as well, that doesnât mean I believe what you say any more than what he says. SryâŚ
Political advisors are employees, and can be subject to conflict of interest rules. Lobbyists are not. At best, weâre lobbyists, and weâre not subject to any conflict of interest rules, other than potentially lobbying the same issue on behalf of opposed clients.
You donât know what youâre talking about.
I took the âstatementâ in your comment to mean the statement in the original post, not something Mike said.
âSo the rest of the game suffers or waits to preserve your precious war? What makes this war the top priority? Why is it more important than changes to the game that may affect it?â
Thatâs pretty straightforward, dude.
Again, we are not saying donât make changes. We are saying carefully consider the impact of the changes on the war.
If you donât think the biggest war in nullsec in 4 years is not something that the Devs should keep in mind after the YEARS of whining about stagnation, âwhy donât the big blocs fight,â and the rest, I donât know what else to tell you. This war hasnât even started and EVEâs getting solid earned media off of it. If itâs as big as the Casino War was, thereâs going to be a lot of free advertising for the game and CCP likes that. Telling them to be careful not to mess with it while itâs happening seems common sense to me. And us being able to say later that we told them before the war starts will head off the inevitable screeching if they do make a change that one side decides was designed to screw them in the future.
I apologize for trying to explain the obvious to people who keep missing it. Perhaps youâd be better off reading another forum.
More âhorse applesâ comingâŚ
If the CSM really wanted to show that they are not metagamming⌠theyâd step down.
But I donât say anything.
You speak volumes!
Crap, I thought I was outta here?
If CCP wants a massive WAR, they should be exspanding the Trig vs Edencom war to cover moreregoins and get the nulsec corps to join one of these NPC forces and push its agenda.
This would engage all player groups from all regions and last more than a day or two.
But the question would be if the nullsec corps/alliances form backroom agreements with each other. I would suspect they would back the NPC that best favors their agendas and leave the other NPC force and its supporters to flounder.
I can do both. I have actually started my NPE project already. Been talking to the Rookie chat vets and am plowing through with another new character to re confirm the pain points. Input is welcome.
Patsy is just a side gig (that I volunteered for)
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