i cant speak for everyone else, i can only speak for how i feel, what ive experienced. i enjoy putting my thoughts into words, its not my fault that you feel the need to take me calling bullies bullies as an insult. or someone who steals a thief, those are not insults, merely descriptors. im perfectly capable of finding other games to play that are either singleplayer or have safe environments to relax in, and do regularly. i didnt once demand that anyone do anything, just said that i didnt like it. the only actual insult i used was calling them childish, since many adults also participate in bullying and thievery. asking the devs to make hi-sec safe isnt a demand, but a personal wish. again, its my opinion that eve would have more players and a less toxic environment here and in the discord if people didnt have the option to harass those who dont want to be harassed. saying what ive seen isnt misinformation, even if you dont believe it to be true. its not my fault that you dislike what i have to say. thats a personal choice you made.
DutchGunner is exactly right and has solid points, didnt decide to be mean or demeaning to the thread in any backhanded way, i have no issue with people trying to help make the best of a bad situation. you just came in here and said being peaceful was āa condescending moral superiority complexā directly insulting me for having an opinion and following beliefs that have helped me grow and protect relationships all throughout life.
anything else Koval? im happy to continue replying to you since you chose to directly insult me, as far as im concerned talking about it just helps me confirm what i believe in and how people should be treating others. there is nothing on this planet that could convince me that being rude to people you have never interacted with is called for or not deserving of punishment. and ill never not call someone who bullies steals anything but a bully or thief.
Very true a few events ago as a corp we ran the sites in t1 cruisers with logi support, that alone was hard but they were also pvp fit and our real purpose was bait, sure we looked like a bunch of noobs but when a Legion thought he would take our loot he had a surprise 8 blaster fit thorax made short work of him.
Just like to add the Legion pilot was great " oh dear, they are strange pve fits and said good fight and well played"
i love this game, i just dislike the PvP. im allowed to have that opinion thank you Satou and im not entitled because i dont believe that anyone owes me anything. when 2 humans meet for the first time everyone should show basic respect for one another thats how i was raised and how i continue to live my life. if i saw someone being bullied and had the power to stop it, i would. everyone who hasnt committed heinous acts deserves to live their life however they like.
and yes, im glad i dont have to meet the people i would consider bullies and thieves in the real world because they get it all out inside this game that allows it, that only applies to people who partake in those acts, never once used an example of an actual person, just a type of behavioral pattern.
how you act inside a virtual world shows me how you would act in the real one. for me the two arent different. i dont believe that people get a separate personality for ingame actions. if someone acts like a prick ingame, they are 100% a prick in life as well. again, my opinions.
if i thought the game should get an update adding space ponies and furries, im allowed to say it should be a thing (just an example lol not actually wanted xD) its not forcing anyone to do anything to have an opinion on some forum post lmao
not to mention, iāve met enough truly amazing and endearing people in Eve to know the difference between a good person and a troll in the context of griefing. as i said before, ive made many good friends through CCPās creation, and plan on continuing to do so. (on another account since im sure you people will try and gank me now for having a different opinion lol) been around for all 20years and seen everything there is to see. hi-sec is the most toxic place in all of New Eden, funnily enough, i 100% agree with your very first post in here Koval. but am under no obligations to like it or think it shouldnt change xP
100%ā¦ im not saying thats not how it is, just saying that i wish it were different. some people get uppity at having a contrary belief yaknow?
the safest place i stayed was with a big corp in null/wh as a miner and ratter, and i just find it ironic that its the case when new players spawn in the worst part of the galaxy xP
iāve had enough people be nice and respectful to know that those type of behaviorās are reprehensible, regardless of my skill level the fact that i dont like pvp and still enjoy eve should tell you something about how many great people ive encountered that kept me going all these years lol its not whining to have an opinion of something and i pity anyone who thinks that about themselves or towards others
just because you can do a thing, doesnt always mean you should. imo
Iām afraid your analogy of gaming behavior with a real-life crime is unsubstantiated (and also insulting and anti-social).
The much more adequate analogy is that with sports competition.
its just what i believe, people who commit crimes in virtual worlds are only doing so because its not allowed in reality, meaning its rooted in their desires to do so. but again thats just my personal beliefs. not saying everyone has to think that way or is wrong for having another belief. its of no consequence to you if you do ingame crimes or whatever and one random internet person wont wanna be your friend irl because of it. means nothing to anyone but me right
Actually itās about half a dozen people with multiple alts, constantly spamming threads in an attempt to make it seem like most everybody here has the same opinionā¦
And yet the only person who has successfully gotten a forum alt to admit who their main was in recent years was me, and the person I pushed against was a ganker.
We are opening a can of worms here, though I canāt say I disagree with you.
Also keep in mind that some wonāt be stealing your kill just for the loot, but hoping you get angry and do something stupid so they can engage you (like, trying to get the loot from them)
The advice would be to go do stuff the furthest away from trade hubs, and in general never in Caldari space. Thereās too many people there
there are plenty of systems near the hubs that only get 1-3 players active, ive been relatively safe from ganks only 3 jumps from one, and can still buy all the handy stuphfs xP i stayed in Arant for years until some miner gank corp started stalking me for always being in the same system, so now i just move every couple of months to another outlier, and avoid moving all my stuff in one shot just incase xP avoiding lvl4 and 5 agents also helps quite a bit with reducing traffic
and im not entitled because i dont believe that anyone owes me anything. when 2 humans meet for the first time everyone should show basic respect for one another 
the fact that i dont like pvp and still enjoy eve should tell you something about how many great people ive encountered that kept me going all these years lol its not whining to have an opinion of something and i pity anyone who thinks that about themselves or towards others 