would you really sit on a fresh alpha account for 4 months to train it up to the 5 MIL SP cap, just to get a week or two of Omega? Omega you will have to pay after that free time… just to get an optimized alt that after the free omega you will have to keep paying so it can use its optimized skills???
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Again.
Currently you can’t make a sp farm alt with the best skills with only 5 million.
The proposal would make it possible to optimally invest the skill points that were previously put into skills that were unnecessary for the farm character.
SP farm alts already have to pay all omega. With your proposal not only new players will benefit, but also whole SP farm alts and possibly better skill optimized bots. So no!
Predominantly all sp farm alts have only around 5M SP. The rest is extracted. So the question is whether they make even more ISK on the side (optimized industry skills) by reskilling those 5M or not. My guess is yes.
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well you cant optimized skills being alpha, wich eventually the account will go back to be, so either you pay omega from the start or not, you are not actually changing anything, just if the alt will farm earlier in its carrer or later. not making anything better nor worse in those cases
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SO you think when they creating skill bots… they dont know what they are doing when they skilling their bot toon ??? oh i want a bot toon … i dont know what i will going to do? lolll loll
:)) lol . where do you live ? ITs EVE online and if they farming skill points they cant skil farm skill points under 5 mill skil point right ? you dont make any sense here… and totally supporting WHY this idea is SOOO GOOD… IT eliminates ans slef cleanes many ways to abuse this by veteran players and gives lot of flexibility to new pilots
yeah LOL man…
What you don’t understand, they can then use your 5M in the skills they could never reach as alpha, so in level 4, or 5 in some skills. That’s what I mean.
If you change your suggestion so that these 5M can only be used in the skills within the alpha skill limit, then I can live with that.
no matter they are skilling those within alfa limit or not… the second they go alfa again… it will be useless for them clearly… Automatic alfa restrctions will apply and they will have right to use omega skills when they are omega … Like every player had it … Also ARENT they Already doing it by alfa daily skill injectors ect up to 20 mil skill point CCP allow this Do you have issue with that ?? then tell to CCP. Again Read the post carefull about restrictions
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sorry, your IQ does not understand the problem. I give up.
now you go ad hominem, … insult and went toxic … what happened? what did you see there my friend… ?
you cant bring anything logical … sound like you just writing stuff doesnt add up just to be against
since 60 people here they saw my point ( which some of them im oldin conversation on discord … but yours doesnt makes sense… and now all of our IQ s suddenly become a problem for you…
You overley intelligent HIgh IQ supreme person ! … im so sory and humble myself for my mentally retarded approaches
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I see your point. If this idea would only allow rearranging of the skill points to Alpha skills, it would be less bad. But then it would not be logical that tge rearrangement is possible the moment the account becomes Omega for the first time.
As the suggestion is now, I can train a lot of free Alpha accounts a bunch of ship skills at maximum efficiency as a backup, and turn them into a perfect PI alt, Interdictor alt, or any other type of alt that I can think of with a 5M SP limit with the press of a button. No more planning, just make sure you have some backup alphas that you can turn omega.
Arent you doing that already ?? or you train your alfa characters unconsciously and unintendently ???
if so WHY you wasting your veteran knwoledge and understanding for creating nonsense alphas?
i did already mentioned that in the main post that will be limited for up to 5 mil alfa … what else need?
i need to write like … its for up to 5 million for alfa then alfa skill point alfa pilots and alfa alfa alfa … helps you to understand better?
No, I train my accounts with a purpose in mind.
Your idea would allow me to train accounts. Period.
And when I happen to need an Interdictor alt, I just turn one of the Alphas into a perfect Interdictor pilot. Or a PI alt. I don’t know yet, because I don’t need to decide what the account is for in advance, until I happen to need one.
All of the planning is gone.
I have added some more details for you two 
@Gerard_Amatin @you_are_evil
you cant remap any skill if you havent train and gain the skill points already … yes you can turn your alt to perfect interceptor pilot but you cant use that one as long as you dont keep the guy as OMEGA… that this has no benefit for you… you already think and plan ver clever by your knwoledge and experience…
this one benefits NEW pilots more than be meaningfull for VETERANS first hand
It’s not about the skill points entering the rearrangement, it’s about the skill points after the rearrangement.
As the character needs to be Omega to trigger eligibility of the rearrangement, the 5M free skillpoints that you trained as Alpha can be injected in Omega skills of your choice.
NO you can do this only for Alfa skills in alfa restrictions… as i mentioned my main from post…
What are they trying to explain to you is the following:
The moment you already have 5 mil SP invested in alpha skills only, as per alpha account limitations and you go omega (pay subscription) and get a SP redistribution (as proposed by you) , you can reallocate those 5 mil SP into omega skills (that initially we’re locked by alpha state) , make a perfect omega alt for something (explorer, dictor pilot, pi master) and at the same time a perfect zombie SP farmer.
This can be a problem.
Sorry, I may have missed that. It is rather hard to read your text.
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im am sorry my friend… my english is not good in writing I do speak 3 different alnguages constant in my daily life and english is not even primary … when im talking its much much more better… if you can help me to rephrase it more understandable way… i can correct my slef… and make it more understandbale… that prevents also some future conflicts…
i can see your point here
and i will be very appreciated if you really can help me. just please please
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Consider an Alpha pilot, who will need to be quite specialised to get the most from the 5 million “free” SP. There are skills on the “Magic” 14 that will not facilitate that specialisation. Any quotes on the “Magic” 14 is just an over-reliance on inherited wisdom, and demonstrates a lack of the “emergent” thinking this game is famous for.
The knowledge on that specialisation probably won’t be learnt in time to best use all the Alpha SP, for me, where’s the advice to get T2 racial guns and Frigate lots with your bonus 1 million SP, and a few support skills, there’s a good PvP pilot on Day 1, with zero RM investment. Doesn’t even need to keep training from there!
If we’re on about facilitation new players, it works as an idea. It would allow old players to simply train up “general” 5 million SP Alts, but to focus them requires Omega, why not 6 month Omega?
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