Man, you really have ■■■■ for brains. I have rarely met anybody as daft as you are here on these forums.
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Says the person who wants newbies to leave the game.
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Please continu to confirm you’re an idiot.
These kind of posts have been around since I started in 2008. The short answer is Eve isn’t for everyone. The whole “alpha” clone F2P thing is circumventing a huge barrier to entry that Eve vets had to overcome. If I didn’t have to pay for my first 5M sp, I would’ve likely quit. Keeping my subscription going heavily incentivized me to continue my journey learning the game. I participated in null sec fleet ops as a frig tackler, low sec roaming and scouting in t1 frigs, and when wormholes were introduced, moved into exploration.
Eve has been “dying” for over a decade, and CCP has always been “ruining the game”. Yet here we are, having the same conversations, but the game is more robust and exciting as ever. I’ve come back from a very long break, and have enjoyed it. Sure, the peak numbers aren’t where they used to be, but 30k concurrent users is nothing to scoff at for a niche MMO.
Yes, EveO is a NICHE game. It always has been, and likely will always be one. It’s not a AAA title that’s going to drag in the millions. It’s hard, it’s brutal, it’s unforgiving. Those are the traits that make Eve the best social simulation you can participate in.
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Lol insulted by a newbie hater 
For everyone 1 of that there are 100 that say “I have to pay 4 years to actually play screw that I’m out”
Eve has been “dying” for over a decade, and CCP has always been “ruining the game”. Yet here we are, having the same conversations, but the game is more robust and exciting as ever. I’ve come back from a very long break, and have enjoyed it. Sure, the peak numbers aren’t where they used to be, but 30k concurrent users is nothing to scoff at for a niche MMO.
Still there are MMO with millions of players, I personally would love to see the online numbers be at 100k, versus 30k.
Yes, EveO is a NICHE game. It always has been, and likely will always be one. It’s not a AAA title that’s going to drag in the millions. It’s hard, it’s brutal, it’s unforgiving. Those are the traits that make Eve the best social simulation you can participate in.
Not really, you have highsec which is a good zone for those who hate pvp. Also a lot of other things eve has that give it advatange, will it be as popular as fortnite? probably not, but it certainly can have millions of players.
How did all the vets start? If everyone thought like that no one would have ever started to play in the first place.
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I care about increasing the numbers of players that stay in the game, vets complaining that “oh dear I had to do that in 2005 that’s not fair” I could care less about.
Make it easier for the newbies so they stay in the game is my stance.
I did not mention anything being fair or unfair.
Its about the attitude of
First you don’t have to pay at all to play and second Eve is a long term game your character grows as you play.
That is the experience of Eve Online, trying to short cut that means the player misses out on so much. Jumping ahead doesn’t help you if you haven’t learnt the game.
Injectors are actually BAD for new players because what they really do is allow rich vets to insta-train alts for specialist roles … before injectors those specialised roles went to new players.
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Generally the people I argue with mention it, my bad if you did not.
First you don’t have to pay at all to play and second Eve is a long term game your character grows as you play.
of course, but remember CCP wisely allowed skill extractors/injectors to allow you to accelerate your growth. much of the content is stagnant, we need more content for different styles to help rejuvenate the game.
That I will agree on.
This
I can’t. Did you not read my previous reply? here it is again.
Trying to catch up doesn’t help you if all the roles are taken by veteran player alts.
Skill injectors mean that there is nothing for the new, lower skill player to do because the rich vets just inject alts. What is the point in accelerating your growth if there is nothing to do when you get there?
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Skill injectors mean that there is nothing for the new, lower skill player to do because the rich vets just inject alts. What is the point in accelerating your growth if there is nothing to do when you get there?
Hate to break it to you but the vets already have everything. We need a game that you can still win vs the trillionaires with all skills at V by having more numbers than them. For that you need more newbies not quitting the game because the NPE is a disaster.
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This reeks of “I had to walk to school six miles in the snow every day so you should too”.
Either way, it’s whiny entitlement at it’s finest and the whole lot of you should find something other than a constantly rehashed 10 year old argument to work yourselves into a lather over. Maybe start a nice EVE is dying thread.
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What a pile of crap.
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The ui is better than before and high sec has never been safer. New players start with more sp than ever before. It’s never been easier for newbies than it is today.
But they stay less now than before.
What they are missing isn’t a safe and easy game, but engaging content and people to enjoy it with.
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AKA pay 2 win
And your answer is more pay 2 win?
Which part of it?
First one is a straightforward highsec buff, since it allows to use in highsec all ships usable in nullsec.
And what makes you think that?
The current mechanics.
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Besides my own observations and the observations of the majority other players on the forums, the implications from ccp about too much safety and over farming etc?
Besides that?
Probably the situation where the only people i know who disagree don’t have a great track recorded of supporting their arguments and have a tendency to be dishonest…
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