Githany led a gank attack on a newbro Venture. She thought it would hurt me, but all she did was hurt him, and she left him sad and confused. He quit the game.
She claims she was enforcing the law, or some roleplay, but the fact is she bullied an actual newbro who was mining peacefully in a Venture. Antigankers are not whiteknights out to defend the innocent. They are salty failed gankers, bitter wannabe griefers whose main activity involves trying to ‘defend’ AFK nullsec freighters.
I don’t mind if Githany starts ganking miners, but I think it’s sad that antigankers are unable to recognize their own hypocrisy. I remember when Knowledgeminer started ganking Silent Company miners. These people act like they follow an antiganking ‘code’, but when it’s convenient they become the very criminals they claim to fight. That’s fine, of course, in EvE Online baddies are allowed to pretend they are the good guys… but sometimes I wonder if antigankers actually know the difference.
So why have half a dozen of them been hanging around the Sivala/Eudama gate for over a week now ? In Uedama itself there wasn’t a single Safety member today, as a lot of them were up in Isanamo, but there were also several Black Flag members in Uedama too.
As opposed to demanding 10m ISK off them for some utterly bogus mining permit racket. I, too, am going to gank anyone displaying the ‘code compliant miner’ tag.
To start with , if there is an anti-ganking code you made it up , we have our own ROE within our corp.
Essentially we fight criminals and those who support it , that gives us a lot of targets and as you are classed as a criminal group , if anyone joins you then we take it as a given they know what they are getting into and they will be targets to. Now if Rion hadn’t join your group and been scouting for you we wouldn’t have killed him . Yes we killed his ship and then I believe he lost this stuff when YesmrChans station got popped but did you help him , no you said he should go and pop mtu , that’s the last I seen of him in perimeter.
So any group that openly support’s criminal activity in Empire space will targets . (With some exceptions)
And no that’s not everyone before you say it is.
Many many groups don’t support ganking .
Before you try and take the moral high ground about killing bots like many gankers do , well go to null where most of the bot farmers live and kill them there, not the small timers in empire and talking of bots , which one of you has the bot ice mining fleet , they gank the ice belts and plant an orca ,
The hypocrisy that comes from your side is limitless
And what do we do that you never let go, kill your snitch or maybe one of your ALTs.
It must be handy for a group like Bf to have gankers . That still makes the act criminal, so we will try and shoot them, like they hunt us on occasions
We never not try and stop a gank or leave a killright because who it is
When have we ever ignored anyone , we attack and disrupt fraternity and goons when ever we can but what I meant by leaving some groups alone are their training corps or groups , unless they are training ganking which then they are fair game
LOL, I’ve never caused trouble nor even trolled in AG. I’ve offered fitting advice, which Drac copied from me btw :D, and I did say BF wasn’t mainly a ganker outfit cause they aren’t.
Drac merely used it as pre-text to ban me. It makes me chuckle. In reality the non intel AG channel is mainly people complaining about gankers.
So you kill that dude in your corp whose a criminal right?
Because they picked up Faylee’s corp for several reasons. I leave it to you to figure out. I know why they recruited them. @Destiny_Corrupted knows why.
If you want to continue on your PvP journey young padawan, you must learn to see beyond DPS and fittings. Tactics win the day young padawan. Ask yourself why a war dec corp would want a gank corp or two in the ranks.
You literally have criminals in your corp. So again I ask, do you fight them?
Aiko appears to be confused yet again from what you are saying in reply, I don’t read her stuff, but I can say that like your corp, Astevon who created the Astral alliances has applied a code of conduct for his alliance, not for AG as a whole. This fits in with AG being a reactive resistance movement to ganker activity.
These are the rules applied to Astral alliance.
Always Stay Respectful in all communication channels, including local, convos, mail, forums, voice comms, etc.
Piracy is not allowed (attacking targets clearly not looking for or picking a fight).
Placing bounties, scamming and extortion is not allowed.
Multiboxers can only mine with up to 7 barges or 14 orcas at the same time in highsec (except moon belts where they have been welcomed).
Having mining permits or other CODE-supporting stuff in the bio is not allowed.
Declaring war, suicide ganking, bumping and stealing is only allowed against targets that continuously break any of these rules (last incident being within the last 7 days).
For instance, if someone insist on keeping their mining permit in their bio, you’re allowed to gank, bump and steal from them. Same thing with people that keep being very disrespectful in local, or insist on mining with too many alts, etc.
Amusingly I got criticisms several times for not always being respectful to people who insulted me in the forums, LOL, so I dropped my main corp out for that and another more important reason for a while.
It is there for all to see, and only applies to Astral alliances, not AG as a whole.
It is just another way of blowing up their clients enemies, however it is also good cover for Faylee and does pad their KB a lot, like the Goons did with their ganking, I think it is tolerated because it adds to their killboard stats which define their efficiency, which is very important to war deccers. And because the ships that are concorded are not countered in the stats, efficiency goes way up.
For Gix to deny that BF have a ganker corp, and to spread such misinformation was just typical ganker rubbish like Aiko’s feeble attempt to say that AG has a code, it does not.
I came across James 315’s ‘actual’ code the other day…and it was the biggest pile of self serving BS I’ve read in a long while. The whole ‘AFK miners’ thing was just a convenient ploy for someone who’s ‘code’ reads like the narcissistic ramblings of a megalomaniac.
That’s the problem I have with Safety, etc. If they just admitted they enjoy ganking, and left it at that, I’d find that at least honest and truthful. But instead they dress it all up in a load of utter BS about protecting ore, making highsec ‘safe’ ( lol ! ), and dressing up some permit scam as if they were doing miners a favour.
As you know the mechanics and game play of eve well enough you know concord sets the rules for standings , why us players decide how to police our own play style.
We have to decide as a group or individually where we sit on this fence, Aiko and her monsters had chosen her way , to throw away human decency and kill anyone anywhere.
So we make up our rules to fight this type of game play , just as she makes up her rules, sometimes it will cross paths with concord rules but as we all know concord will not protect pilots as a result of our efforts we sometimes get pilots drop in security status .
We are happy with this situation so why would we kill our own. Any pilot that helps criminal groups regardless of security status will be our targets
Of course there is a way around this , don’t suck up to gankers out of fear and who they represent.
As our resistance growth’s stronger they will become more desperate to hold power and save face.
Once you remove fear they are powerless and why we survive.