Suspect/criminal timer and player owned stations

Bored with ganking… Still tis good to see you playing, o7

If you want to think that sure. I just told you I’m not bored with ganking. I’ve been exploring far more lucrative activities and having fun doing so.

Good to hear, I happen to think having an active Faylee is good for the game as a whole.

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Good point

I’m sure some need light shedding on your activities and all that you do is part of the game and legal.

But a name and reputation is always in balance with the activities you do . I know how is see Black Flag , some will see you are gankers , others as structure mashers and some as guardians of their high sec assets.

So now you are gankers and Gix is wrong ,Black Flag got off the run of the ladder and moved down one to share the next run down with other gankers.

At least there are no more runs left, and btw it’s only a reputation standing or opinion not a personal attack .

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Exactly that, Vendetta had a reputation that was actually rather good, the CEO was also known to not be a fan of ganking at least publicly. Now as Blackflag. that same CEO has a corp in his alliance that is heavily into ganking, as such the reputation went down somewhat.

To call its high school gossip is risible, the incident occurred because a new player asked if Slavers Union (NB. See below) were gankers, and Gix said no, that Blackflag. were war deccers, it was an attempt to mislead. In any case why does it bother Faylee that Gix was kicked for mis-information from a moderated player chat channel and that Gix is crying about it on the forums?

Faylee can argue quite rightly that it is just part of their tool set, however their hisec indy clients, the few that there are who have been attacked by Blackflag. gankers might actually struggle a bit with it.

Reputation in this game does means something and as you said Blackflag. went down a rung or two.

And Gix is wrong about pretty much everything.

NB To be clear I had in my memory that Gix reacted to the corp, however to be certain I checked my logs. In fact the other player asked about Blackflag. even though he referred to them as a corp. So Gix stated that Blackflag were a merc group and also referred to them as a corp but omitted the information that they had active gankers most notably Slavers Union in that alliance. I know that he knew this, so was a deliberate attempt to mislead.

Ganking has always been a valuable tool to hit enemies or targets that are otherwise protected from war decs. If you want the truth Blackflag leadership on a core level actually dislike ganking a lot as they feel it is more harmful to the game than even wardecs have been.

I guess enough was enough and the advantage of being war immune and taking advantage of ACL was enough to have leadership consider ganking as a tool in the toolbox.

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Just earlier I got a DM on discord asking how much it would cost for me to gank an Orca + 15 Exhumers. Admittedly I can’t hit all of them at once and it’s obvious that the Orca would be the more interesting prize here.

How much do you think I should charge?

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I know this to be true.

I know this might appear to be a bit snotty, but if most of your kills are nullsec characters moving through hisec does it really matter? It does I know, but…

Four times the cost of your ships and modules.

That’s just a form of hypocrisy.

They’re probably more angry about ganking cannibalizing “their” targets than over any perceived threat to the game’s health.

I’m not aware of the full context of why Blackflag and Slavers Union were mentioned. I was scrolling and the mentions caught my attention, so I skimmed and replied…

Blackflag has literally (3) players that gank: Drell, Toxic, and Myself. Drell ganks regularly while Toxic and I have been focused on other activities. I do consider ganking to be a tool in the toolbox so labeling the alliance as gankers doesn’t bother me in the least. After all, I see nothing wrong with ganking… call me whatever you want, really.

My question is since there ls really a single active ganker in Blackflag, is that enough for you to label a group as gankers? The reason I ask is that instead of maybe telling that new player a simple, “yes”, maybe you ought to explain further. A good example of why I think it’s silly to label Blackflag as gankers is this.

A few weeks ago NEPF was following me around Jita / New Caldari. I was being reported in Gank Intel as a ganker. The truth is that I had 0 kill rights, I was +sec, I hadn’t ganked in weeks, and I was catching and killing legit war targets. In fact I was decloaking DSTs and tackling with a slasher. So here for the better part of 2 hours NEPF followed me around waiting for me to go criminal lol. Was a bit strange as I just continued doing my thing while Githany and friends orbited and yellowboxed me.

Wow. The outright lying is nuts. You yourself admitted Black Flag are top tier war deccers :smiley: The guy asked about BF, not Slaver’s Union.

Rarely, but I admit when I am :smiley: LOL. The outright lying you are doing is chef’s kiss.

To me it isn’t, and its why I said BF is a war dec outfit, which it is :smiley:

Its merely Drac trying to use semantics because he doesn’t want it to seem like he’s petty, tho he is :smiley:

Gix was just stirring stuff up as per normal.

It is not so much that, you have a specific corp, so that is now defined as red and reported in gank intel, the same goes for Drell and his alts. What happens is that some people will incorrectly define Blackflag as gankers by the allocation of red to the alliance and will start reporting your movements in gank intel and that may cost you kills. Even if they have done it correctly if your characters are in a war dec fleet that will still get reported.

I never said that all of Blackflag. are gankers, it is Gix extrapolating bullshite, it is just how the intel will be reported.

You are a ganker, and are marked at -10 red, so yes you are treated as one and reported on and interfered with if possible

We feel the same about ganking but will use it on selected targets as you say for what ever reason.

Let us know how your orca gank pans out🙂

Honestly, cause we want to hit those juicy industrial focused targets. Part of our operation is extortion and protection and playing the scary and oppressive space landlord in Highsec.

Prior to structures the only real benefit to being in an NPC corp was that you were safe from wars. Now, you get to have your cake and eat it too with ACL. I guess the way we see it is if you want to use upwell structures you need to pony up, otherwise you’re free to use NPC stations.

I don’t think there’s any selfish motive behind it. To them it’s probably just been a personal preference thing… that and the freshest memory in their mind always goes back to stuff like the bonus room.

I guess more of something to point to and say, “well at least I’m not that bad”. It matters little really because at the end of the day they’re more than happy to use a gank to get a job done.

I get it, but they didn’t do anything other than orbit and yellow box me.

I know that is what Blackflag. does too, this is one of the reasons why I was asking you about the impact on hisec indy.

It matters to hisec indy concerns yes, because they still lost an important asset, the nullsec players will likely be hurt by it depending on who they are but can replace, but as I keep pointing out they can quite easily just compress now and move out of your clutches. My group don’t have any hisec structures, and they were all hisec indy players…

I had it as a certain distaste for that too.

Well I like and respect you. And yes a gank is part of their toolbox, I get that. I am just saying that the negative impact is that Blackflag. will likely find itself reported in Gank Intel quite often because one of you is in their war dec fleets or due to someone having you marked at the alliance level as red. And as there are gankers in your alliance moderators will be letting that intel be posted.

Tags for the win…

LOL not really. Man. I might troll now and then, but you’re out right lying is laughable LOL.

That you did my friend :smiley: And that’s the reason you used to kick me. Isn’t my fault you contradict yourself LOL.

Cause they are scared of you :smiley:

Sounds like if this does happen to make people pull their Athanors down then I’ll just anchor my own public ones while ganking every Orca I see :slight_smile:

OK, I think not so easy to pin down as structures so fine.

These are the good guys, the real criminals are CONCORD, who get away with murder.

Why not? Sounds like something you want, but only because it benefits you.