Is it possible to purchase a Marshal piloting license? I just stole mom’s CC, but I don’t want to lose it like fifteen minutes after I buy one.
I don’t think using missiles for AG is anything like as silly as it seems to some. My main PvE skill is kiting…and even a Condor has a missile range of 20km or so. The point being that this is well outside the range of the average ganker Catalyst. Most ganker ships are short range.
A Condor is never going to work for AG, as even a Tech II only gets to about 80DPS…but a heavy missile Caracal, that’s another matter. 1,500 alpha strike…300 DPS…45km max range ( these could be a low estimate…as I still have missile skills to train ). That will take down a Catalyst in Uedama…I figure in less than 10 seconds. Possibly even more than one.
And good EHP too.
In anycase…I also have 2 Algos, a Corax, 2 Thrashers, 3 Catalysts, a Kestrel, a Talwar, a Crucifier, a Drake, and a Tornado. Will be interesting to see what works. It will be fun either way…which is what Eve is all about, blowing stuff up.
I may go either reactive or proactive. Obviously proactive will lose my ship…but then again…that in itself will bring Concord round, which is the last thing the gankers want before a gank ( but that could equally backfire and they could use me as bait to draw Concord away from the real attack ). Will be interesting to see.
Uh. You literally have no idea what you’re talking about.
And no idea what you’re doing ROFL.
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Aiko I want a Marshal , buy me one please 
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Nope, but I’d love one of those ships the Wormhole Police use.
Tornado’s work well I can alpha two cats before concord , only down side is the slow rof, been using one for KR hunting with A/c , have been enjoying that more
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I’m going to be nice and genuinely explain on the off-chance you’re not kidding, or someone else reads this and thinks this is a good idea:
This calculus doesn’t take into account travel time, both for the first volley to connect, and for the last volley(s) to connect.
It might take your missiles 5-10 seconds (depending on distance and velocity) to reach your target initially, which is how much time’s worth of damage will be cut out of the total damage done. If you’re going criminal in an effort to “proactively” anti-gank, this can also be double-dipped at the end of the encounter, because when you’re destroyed, any missiles still out in space will no longer track their target. You can lose anywhere from 1-3 missile cycles’ worth of DPS like this, which is a lot even in a 0.5 system 26-second gank window.
The best way to gank (or anti-gank) is to front-load as much damage as possible, without exceeding the target’s EHP (more important for the latter than the former). Using artillery is probably the most effective method.
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Eve needs a hypersonic missile system
Not exactly cheap though. I don’t mind losing a 10m ISK ship like a Thrasher, or even go as far as 26m for my Caracal…for proactively taking stuff out…but 100m or so is a bit much for ‘proactive’ AG…would keep it for the reactive stuff.
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Yes very true , our railgun cats in groups work well , we work in teams of two for each cat
I don’t get it
Happy playing a lot of FFXIV. Damn that game is good. Did not know there where devs out there that actually care to make a game worth to play instead of putting monetization first.
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Speaking of Tornados…
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She’s talking about ganking the gankers.
The nado is a giant waste.
You also want to coordinate with haulers cause after you AGG, they have a jump window.
Thats your true goal actually. You won’t be able to kill all the gankers before CONCORD kills you. You can take out some, pull CONCORD and open a jump window.
Also I literally posted this tactic in an earlier thread. You’re welcome 
Ergo you don’t want expensive ships.
Please learn how to EVE. Use arties or blasters kthx.
Tornado’s work really well if you have two accounts as you can remove 4 DPS ships early on which is important. Gankers will often try to remove Tornados if they can’t easily n+1 against their presence.
Still no war dec from Destiny Corrupted, more forum hot air methinks…
Cept she’s talking about AGG
No, Gix…it’s increasingly clear that that’s your role here. And I don’t need lectures from someone who’s killboard 50% consists of zapping Ventures.
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If she was responding to ganks that were in progress, sure. But she’s talking about ‘proactively anti-ganking’, which is known to the rest of the game as ‘ganking’. As such, she is gonna lose those tornados to CONCORD in a matter of seconds, which is not a great trade for killing catalysts. Also, @Cilla_Cybin , you don’t need to worry about EHP at all. The gankers won’t be shooting at you, they are busy trying to gank something. And no amount will protect you from CONCORD. You need max dps or max alpha, that’s it. Every decision you make for tank that detracts from that limits how many ganker ships you can kill. You have to realize, you are ganking, not PvPing, you need to fit your ships like Safety does. You may not like them, but they aren’t stupid.
Yes…I’ve already decided that lower cost ships ( effectively similar to those gankers themselves use ) will be used for proactive AG…and the higher cost ones for reactive AG. The limiting cost probably being around 10 - 15m ISK. No way am I gonna waste 100m ISK worth of Tornado on a proactive AG.
Plus for proactive there’s the cost of clone soldier tags, etc…though I figure one of those is effective for about 8 ganks.
Why does everybody on these forums default to trying to educate people with outlandish ideas - even when it is clear that such people don’t want to be educated?
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We are talking about -10 Catalysts and of course those that have gone criminal, known to people as gankers. So losing those Tornado’s to CONCORD is just not going to happen. You can be proactive against -10 security status Gankers in Catalysts.
Githany was talking about proactively removing gankers, not ganking as such!
Gankers will clear ships that get in the way of ganks at times, so it is less about tank and more about awareness and not being easy to catch.
Nothing to do with like or dislike, and I never said they were stupid. They are rather disagreeable and come over as stupidly nasty on the forums, but that is their forum warfare approach tbh.