The Champion is Reborn

Yeah? Well if you want to coddle torturers, murderers, spirit-breakers, spirit-stealers and body corruptors, then be my guest. Like has been brought up, the only way to be rid of these wastes of carbon if they become capsuleers is by their own volition. And I intend to encourage them to biomass themselves in the future as well. If you can’t stand it, well, tough.

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Funny, I can’t seem to find a place where I said I would coddle them. Can you show me where I said this?

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I was talking about Funk, since you were calling out people for celebrating her demise.

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Well, clearly you think me telling her to fly into a sun without cloning contract is loathsome, so you want me to be less direct about my wish, because it upsets you. In essence, I’d have to temper my hatred for your benefit.

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Well … neither am I, though.

If you do decide to look more deeply at the Sabik, I’d suggest being really careful who you approach. Along with Sansha’s Nation, the Blood Raiders are one of two major groups in New Eden I’d rather be dead than captured by. And they look at clone blood as particularly high-quality, so without careful safeguards you might spend a distressingly long life as a blood reservoir.

As safeguards go, an antimatter speck on a neurological dead-man switch probably isn’t overkill.

If you really insist on looking into them, Sabik practice is legal in the Federation (which I think is a calamitously bad idea even if I understand their reasons) so long as they don’t get up to stuff like sacrificing people. There, the problem with the belief system will be subtle, so you might not even recognize it. But … please remember what I said about what that faith is about. The theme’ll still be the same.

And so will the end, if it’s allowed to thrive and spread.

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How are capsuleers “innocent people”? As long as they are past their first few level 1 missions, they are not. Any prolific L4 mission runner or nullsec ratter killed more actual innocent people in baseliner crews than even Nauplius did.

Putting a gun to an egger’s pod and instantly sending the loldemigod back to their clone bay so they lose some time, ISK and self-esteem is hardly “torturing innocent people”.

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I have less sympathy for the capsuleers you go after, sure. But since when did Funk limit her activities to just capsuleers?

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CONCORD is going to bring it back once they get the ‘just kidding’ note that creature surely left on a time-delay release. There is no way it would let us have this satisfaction.

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You’re as right about this as you are about your hair care advice.

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Looks like I misunderstood on that point, then.

My point on Funk is exactly that, though–that celebrating her demise is gross. I’m not attempting to justify or approve of her actions in life, though, and I think maybe it’s being interpreted that way.

Then that would be your coddling me, not my coddling them.

Also, I don’t want you to be less direct because it “upsets” me. I want you to be less direct because you’ve made yourself into a piece of ■■■■ in front of everyone.

If I did get into researching the Sabik, it would be relegated to research, not actual encounters among them.

My opinions here are about individual people, though, so I’m not sure that it would change anything about this conversation.

To be clear, I’ve not said anything about allowing the Sabik practice to survive or thrive. I’ve only said that I think that a person should be judged on their merits, not their mistakes.

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It’s really not. She was a horrible person and the cluster is better off without her. She’s now hopefully finally being held accountable for her crimes.

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Well that’s my problem, not yours.
And I thought I would never see the day that people choose to call me a piece of ■■■■ over a ■■■■■■■ sani sabik disciple.

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She did not exressively limit her activities to just pure pod hunting, yes. But the clones were her preferred targets. Before entering CODE, she mostly ganked frigates, and shuttles - so the count of her baseliner victims from that would be about the same as of an average lowsec militia frigate pilot. She also ran missions for the Covenant in Delve.

So, if we look at the real damage Funk inflicted on the humanity, it would be no different than that of any other active nullsec dweller. She just was fond of showing how different she was in everyone’s face, and that’s why everyone really hated her - for being different. Just as the upstanding citizens here hate me now as I took her place.

Depends if that’s the first time. CONCORD has two strikes and you’re dead for good policy on this. I know, I sacrificed myself once.

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She made remarks about eating babies and the like, and has expressed support for things Nauplius has done. If she did not actually do similar things to what he and most blood raiders do, to baseliners, then that would be news to me.

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I’ve dealt with you more than I’ve dealt with Jade (albeit both mostly in the context of IGS). I came to respect your opinions, even when I didn’t always agree with them. Jade I’ve only seen in passing, usually ranting about something.

So in a thread mostly full of disappointing responses, your responses bothered me the most.

But that probably isn’t worth anything, so whatever.

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My earliest memory of her is her declaring very loudly and in public that she’d been mating with her slaver hound. Whether it was true or not, that kind of exhibitionism was mostly the part she played.

I guess it was indeed a way of sticking her differences in everyone’s face, if that’s a valuable thing to do. But it didn’t seem to really cause much discussion or thought. It was more like a child who’s found a snake or an extra-large spider or something chasing other children around with it.

I guess we could say she was painting her own willingness to do and say things that repelled others as strength, and their revulsion as weakness. It’s not clear to me, though, that a dark mind, or a mind with a high tolerance for things that people find disgusting, is “stronger.” And actually it seems like a need to show it off might be, well, a weakness.

Basically, while I, also, have a kind of dark mind, I didn’t find her very interesting. She bored me, so I didn’t talk to her.

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I see. That is unfortunate. If this were any other case, I’d probably agree with you. However, Sani Sabik and Sansha are soul corrupters, where I take a huge exception. Once you become one of them, you are tainted as long as you live, and the only cure is death.

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I’ll accept this.

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Okay.

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…did you really just use Chakaid in attempt to support a point?

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