If there is no killmail, then it is griefing.
I can shoot down your augmented/harvester drones, but there is no profit in this and there is no killmail either. So it would just be pure griefing.
Killmail gives it a meaning.
ganker is stagnation manifest, nothing grow, nothing decay, except your f1 key that you need to replace
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“He”. I’m not pretending to be a female.
Some good points here, but the core issue remains: ganking hasn’t evolved. It’s stuck in a static loop—point, click, delete. No real counterplay, no depth. What if piracy actually involved piracy? Disable, board, steal—not just blap and warp. Sandbox needs tools, not trophies.
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don’t give hilmar idea, he will sink more money in amazing graphic project that will do absolute nothing to re-invigorate eve online
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I mean “They” as a plural to point out a Group of people not to address a preferred pronoun. lmaooooooooo 
Well that is true and tbh Ganking should have been removed a long time ago and replaced by a deep and challenging HS-piracy concept which allows for a true cat/mouse game between Pirates, NPC-Law-Enforcement and Player-Anti-Piracy forces. That would mean of course: Also the Pirates (Gankers) could win, by getting the loot AND escaping with their ships.
However I am unsure if CCP is best advised to do something at this moment, because I honestly think EVE has other problems right now, that needs love with a bit higher priority.
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Be careful. You don’t want Ganking to Evolve. CCP may grant your request. Let them stay in a loop. “You don’t want snakes to develop a pair of wings.”
Make space piracy great again…
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On a CCP budget…
Make
Eve
Great
Again
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Do those come with mustard?
I always looked as it as “gankers gonna gank”. It’s their playstyle, it’s valid & so I just ignore them. I tank my ships not to survive a 10+ cata gank (you’re not gonna survive) but more of the 4-5 person roaming opportunists. There’s no real defense against a focused & sizeable gank squad so just watch local, I.E. don’t afk mine, be aligned, mark known ganker corps and alliances as red etc etc.
So, there’s no counter play?
*Noted
your counter play would be watching uedamascout when you are travelling famous trade line systems and having a friends with web to make you aling faster
FTFY 
sorry, i am not enought bittervets to desire 50 clones of me, one is enought
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It is going to be difficult to implement “real piracy” in high sec space. At least if by real piracy you mean disabling a ship and demanding a ransom. If Concord is going to rush in and save people in High Sec, then the aggressor is always going to have seconds to finish the deal once the fight starts and that means there are two options. Either the aggressor has to destroy the ship before Concord arrives, or the pirate has to do something more passive like bump ships repeatedly and generally be so annoying that the victim will pay to be left alone.
I can only imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth that a general Concord nerf would cause.
“ganking” has been nerfed to the point where there is no room to allow it to evolve new and interesting game play without some kind of nerf to the safety of High Sec space. Every time I have seen gankers come up with an effective new idea the cry for the devs to bring out the nerf bat starts, and that inevitably stifles innovation.
I do like the pirate faction warfare idea though, having been inconvenienced by the corruption of Bei, and watching it happen in Amo and Hrorr. It has got me playing my faction warfare character again in a bid to stop it.
I can remember back in the day when it felt like there were more Low Sec short cuts that people commonly used with pirates setting up gate camps there to scram people and demand ransom. The corruption of sites and allowing pirates to do that is fun, but I can imagine it would put off a lot of “care bears” when their Hight Sec system feels more like low sec.
bumping until pay is nerfed to be useless, all the victim has to do is to wait 180 seconds and the ship will warp off