Uh, no.
This thing called “chemistry” and “metallurgy” happened, so the ship is not made of the same materials.
Take steel for instance. Made from iron, but gasp it’s not the same as iron.
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At least they could transfer the ore from one barge to another… Miner wars! Who mines more, wins.
Everything burns when it gets hot enough - lasers cut steel very well.
Then the ore you are mining is ionizing into useless matter as well. If it can burn away steel it can burn away ore.
Can’t have it both ways.
But maybe if you whine enough CCP will implement this. I would love to see it in game. So many uses for abuse this mechanic. It has me giddy with possibility.
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And I already explained the ways it could be balanced. You want your cake and to eat it too. You want a ship to be able to transcend it’s role limitations with no downside. That is terribly unbalanced.
Also you realize you don’t even know how the mining lasers extract the ore. The process could easily not be able to penetrate shields or armor.
As I said, I’m for it, with the balancing I suggested.
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You know guys…instead of bashing on this guys idea…
Just think about all the ppl that complained about not having a Combat Proc with the new patch,
This would fix that…except now they can shoot not just neut and drone stuff!
When I used one, it doesn’t even look like a laser. Given the animation, it looks like it uses some sort of asynchronous mechanism to dislodge the ore and tractor it in.
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miners do have defensive capabilities… drones…
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Naw I just wanna be able to use the HUGE lasers as they could be used, simply remodified pulse duration with a low slot module, and then be able to lock on and target ships with them.
Not much cake there, lasers and targeting systems should be able to lock onto anything and shoot it.
The mods are just how lasers work, longer pulses = greater penetration, which should cut into any material eventually through laser Ablation.
yeah I noted that, so the laser tractor beams used in laboratory tests indicated that in space it could be used more effectively, the game has that mechanic in it, which scientifically works great too.
The emission system looks like several types of emission, one being the primary pulse laser and the second a tractor beam laser, then a pulverization cone near the collector.
But the beams have a current range of 15km in game, so the big damaging beams are center pulsed while the tractor appears to be a wider beam surrounding it.
I do love the time the DEV’s put in to the art and science of that aspect of the game.
Mm then hard no.
I get you don’t want it to be balanced and you want your cake and to eat it too.
Also by your logic we can easily say the lasers can’t pierce shielding and armor on the ships. So you could fire but no effect.
You want your hull to be able to transcend it’s role. So by your logic, are you then ok for Amarr ships to be able to mine as well?
Basically dude, its a bad idea. The fact that you don’t understand why, says it all.
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lol JK I love EVE, and the forum pirates aside, it’s still fun.
I like FPS a bit better than point and click “PVP” just doesn’t seem real enough to me to bother, but the mining is fun. I’d say more fun than point and click fighting.
Like a Space-version of a playstation game, like final fantasy - fighting turn by turn can be quite boring.
As for ISK vs time input, this last week I cleared 100 million ISK in 2 days from sales of goods made from the stuff I mine, so mining pays too.
YOU DON’T HAVE TO GANK TO MAKE BANK!!!
Ahh so you’re just trolling. Figures. 
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You know Gix_firebrand I see you negatively comment on lots of posts not just mine, back off with your negativity, breathe in the positivity dude.
I certainly do not appreciate you sprinkling your hate on my threads.
I always thought they should give people who train into t2 barge mining paths some combat utility /use for lowsec/null sec. It would make null sec alliances recruit them more (and cause more of them to die in null sec!)
For instance, a pirate mining crystal that reduces shield or armor or hull resists against subcap weapons, providing a passive buff to fleet members vs caps/supers.
Imagine 10 skiff meta to reduce Nyx resists to 1%. I can see SRP alliance fits now.
Imagine needing subcaps to defend caps from noobs in bombers and skiffs?
LOL what hate the truth? You want a hull to absolutely break its intended role.
I said I’m for it, as long as its balanced with the changes I suggested.
drones … drones are what you want for combat utility in mining ships.
LOLOLOLOLOL
Did you know you can get a mining permit for 10 mil and be safe in high sec.
Ask my queen @Aiko_Danuja
Once a week she grants me permission to mine with bling modules.
They did.
They are called drones.
There is quite a variety of them too.
Many of them can be bought off the market too. You should check it out. Get familiar with them. Maybe even give them a try.
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