Utari's Puppies (Formerly Off-Topic Thread)

[Arrendis]

[Che_Biko]

@Yarosara_Ruil

I know next to nothing about Mister Biko and yet he strikes me as someone cool as a cucumber.

I can be chill when I find myself in a pickle.

[Yarosara_Ruil]

Does that mean you use brine as pod goo?

[Arrendis]

@MantelGlobalIndustries

the reckless and indifferent rationale behind your actions.

He wasn’t being reckless or indifferent. He wanted them to blow it up so he could post that thread and get everyone paying attention to him again and posting in his thread and bumping his threads back to the top again. This is a very firmly established pattern of Napkin-behavior.

[Halcyon_Ember]

Don’t act like that was unexpected.

[Halcyon_Ember]

You know very well that I am.

[Halcyon_Ember]

@Aria_Jenneth

I don’t quite understand why people seem to assume that I cling to people/causes for no reason.

In general capsuleers seem to struggle to devote loyalty to anything. It seems to be anathema to many. I certainly haven’t seen any cause or person I’d wholeheartedly devote myself to in quite some time. My allegiances in the past have been relatively fleeting. Based on her interactions with others. I do respect your current employer (nearly typed something else, don’t mind me) and perhaps were her sphere of influence other than it is I myself might be tempted to place myself under her wing.

[Tannia_Ambrye]

@Nauplius

I am not an enemy of the State. I believe that the State should respond to this new Revelation from God by enslaving its Achuran population, to be sure, but that does not make me its enemy.

Not an enemy of the State?

Declares Achuran blood as a sacrificial rite.

@Nauplius

THE BLOOD OF THE ACHURANS GIVES OCCULT POWERS TO THE CHOSEN

Announces you will be attempting to enslave Achurans, members of the State, and torture them.

@Nauplius

Even now, my Slavers troll the slave markets of New Eden for Achurans, this newly revealed tribe of filthy Minmatar subhumans, to be brought to Mehatoor for an early preview of the Hell that awaits them in the life to come.

States intent to attack the State personally or join GalMil to attack the State to get Achurans as slaves.

@Nauplius

I wonder whether there are any SuVee convoys or mining operations in space that I might interdict. Or perhaps the Gallentean militia might let me join them Hmm.

And you really want us to believe that your not an enemy of the State and “merely” want the State to enslave Achurans? The State, which has never practiced slavery, might I add.

[Slayer_Liberator]

@Halcyon_Ember

In general capsuleers seem to struggle to devote loyalty to anything. It seems to be anathema to many. I certainly haven’t seen any cause or person I’d wholeheartedly devote myself to in quite some time. My allegiances in the past have been relatively fleeting. Based on her interactions with others. I do respect your current employer (nearly typed something else, don’t mind me) and perhaps were her sphere of influence other than it is I myself might be tempted to place myself under her wing.

I feel that for most of my corpmates and myself our loyalty to PanFam is more than our loyalty to any particular cause or ideal.

[Teinyhr]

@Halcyon_Ember

In general capsuleers seem to struggle to devote loyalty to anything. It seems to be anathema to many. I certainly haven’t seen any cause or person I’d wholeheartedly devote myself to in quite some time. My allegiances in the past have been relatively fleeting. Based on her interactions with others. I do respect your current employer (nearly typed something else, don’t mind me) and perhaps were her sphere of influence other than it is I myself might be tempted to place myself under her wing.

On the contrary, I feel that way too many capsuleers devote their loyalty to one, often more than a little deranged person instead of a greater whole. Obvious example, large capsuleer alliances are to a degree personality cults and would if not outright fall apart, at least fracture if their most charismatic leaders disappear. It is why I can’t stand them.

I could somewhat respect pilot Jenneth until she became just another lapdog of an Amarrian supremacist and sold her prinicples for a bowl of soup and a pat on the back.

[Ria_Nieyli]

Oh, things I’d do for a well-cooked meal…

[Jev_North]

@Teinyhr

I could somewhat respect pilot Jenneth until she became just another lapdog of an Amarrian supremacist and sold her prinicples for a bowl of soup and a pat on the back.

And nothing of value was lost.

[Teinyhr]

I’m not quite sure what you’re trying to say. If you meant that my respect has no value, then I’m sure you’re right, it only has value to someone who is looking for it in the first place.

[Aria_Jenneth]

@Teinyhr

I could somewhat respect pilot Jenneth until she became just another lapdog of an Amarrian supremacist and sold her prinicples for a bowl of soup and a pat on the back.

Okay, so, I’m curious-- what principles do you feel I sold?

@Teinyhr

I’m not quite sure what you’re trying to say. If you meant that my respect has no value, then I’m sure you’re right, it only has value to someone who is looking for it in the first place.

Well … it’s true that I see your judgments as being very much from your own perspective, and not very nuanced, so, in some sense they don’t carry a lot of weight with me. Only, it’s not like you’re one of the people I decided I shouldn’t (and maybe nobody should) ever listen to, either.

That’s a pretty short list, though.

[Teinyhr]

@Aria_Jenneth

Okay, so, I’m curious-- what principles do you feel I sold?

Well, for one for a time you seemed to pride yourself as a super-neutral “there is something good in everything”, and well, even now, coddle Nauplius for example, yet you clearly finally picked your side and threatened my people and by extension my tribe, my clan and my family. And you call your slavedriver “kind” whereas she is completely ok with the suffering of others.

[Arrendis]

@Teinyhr

Obvious example, large capsuleer alliances are to a degree personality cults and would if not outright fall apart, at least fracture if their most charismatic leaders disappear. It is why I can’t stand them.

This is really more true of the mid-sized groups, the 2-4000 pilot alliances. The largest groups only function because they’re actually organizationally sound.

And shut up, Slayer, I know I just said something nice about Horde.

[Arrendis]

Remember, by ‘kind’, she means ‘she’s nice to me and the people I see around me in the building’.

[Aria_Jenneth]

I see.

But, I don’t think you understood that principle from the start. (It’s okay. Few do.)

It’s not that there’s good in everything. I don’t really believe in either good or evil, as forces unto themselves, to begin with, even if I might sometimes use the words (I particularly try to avoid using the word “evil” very much).

It’s more that I find dignity and worth in genuine feeling and sincere belief, whether I agree with it or not. That includes yours, and also my own.

You’re completely right that I chose my side: I stand with the Directrix. But I didn’t particularly want to threaten your people until you (and others) made it apparent that by choosing my side I became your enemy.

So be it: I’m your enemy. You don’t have to be “evil” for me to harm you; nor do I need to dispute the particulars with you. You have your reasons, and that’s okay. I have mine, too. Mine need not deny yours, nor yours mine.

We’re enemies-- you told me so in detail, and I believe you. That’s all the reason I need, or ever needed.

[Aldrith_Shutaq]

Teiny is just jealous that she’s not as kind and popular as Luna.

And kind to everyone, including slaves. She doesn’t keep any herself, by the way, as she is a commoner.

[kul_Shaishi]

You should be afraid of commoners that’s were revolution festers