War Declaration - Inflation?


(Ryan B Thiesant) #1

Does anyone know if since the birth of the Wardec, has it’s cost kept pace with inflation?

This is the formula for War Declaration (WardDec) price, N is the size of the corporation member and the result is the isk paid per week for a WarDec. (log(N) / log(1.675))^2 * 300000 * N^0.26815

Can any of you economists out there explain how this formula keeps up with the inflation of isk?

Other free to comment as well.


(Shuckstar) #2

The whole War Dec mechanics are fubar and nope it don’t keep up inflation


(Hir Miriel) #3

The only variable is the number of players, so it wouldn’t keep pace with inflation.
The lowest cost is 50 million.
The highest cost is 500 million.
That scales from 50 players to 2000 players in opposing corp/alliance.

So, a 50 million buy-in and then about 250k per player as a rule of thumb?
Very cheap.


(Dyver Phycad) #4

Wars need to be cheaper at the upper end to keep the biggest groups in EVE under war indefinitely. The bigger a group is, the more wars it should be exposed to.


(Black Pedro) #5

The wardec mechanic, including the cost, was changed in 2012 so it is a bit of comparing apples and oranges. But over the course of the game, CCP has managed to keep inflation and the value of assets in a reasonable range:

Inflation doesn’t tell the whole story though as it has been kept in check by compensating for increased ISK in the game with increased assets - ISK buys you a similar amount but we all have more ISK and stuff. If you look at something like PLEX which may better reflect our in-game wealth, you’ll see it debuted in around 2008 for 300M ISK /month game time and is now around 1.5M ISK/month so a five-fold increase.

War costs haven’t changed since 2012, but then the minimum cost was raised around 25-fold from about 2M ISK to the current 50M ISK. But the costs pre-2012 were calculated differently depending on whether it was an alliance or a corp (alliances were still 50M I think?), and how many active wars there were. They also changed how quickly the war cost scaled with group size, shifting it towards increasing the cost for larger groups more quickly.

So I would be comfortable saying the cost of an entry-level war against a small corp has kept pace with inflation and is actually still more expensive now than when the mechanic was first introduced and was only 2M ISK. For alliances wars, given we have had only mild inflation, if not deflation depending on the index you choose, it is probably similar in terms of ISK value.

We are all richer though, so if you mean have wardec costs against alliances kept pace with how much wealth each of us have, then probably not. People can afford wars easier today than in 2012 and when the war mechanic was introduced at the beginning of the game just like they can afford everything more than in the past.

That is one of the side-effects of opening the ISK and resource faucets full-blast.


(Kannibal Kane) #6

Also take into considerations that you were also limited in wars.

It was cheap but you could only dec 3 corps.


(Jonah Gravenstein) #7

Base wardec cost outstripped inflation when it was increased by 2600% in 2012, other aspects of the mechanic were changed at the same time.


(system) #8

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