They can keep it for themself, they will need it, new boss promised them the blood, sweat and tears,
no more easy living in Island 
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Note what I say should happen alongside longer Concord timers though. Real fittings. And reasonable weapons. So you can active tank if you fit it and can shoot glass cannons back off the grid. And optional prop mod means permanent bumping isnt a thing if you fit it (though several minute point if you cant shoot them).
The two things go together giving the person the ability to defend themselves as well as the attacker more time to do things.
Rather than hyperdunking which was sit around with no control of your ship due to bumping and hope someone saved them before the ganker were them down.
Very different experience.
I would argue yes it’s an exploit as any form of delaying Concord is an exploit. And I would consider it covered by that. Obviously I’m not CCP. They might rule differently, and I’m not going to sit down and lawyer it out with you.
Delaying a ‘police’ response? Seems like a legit tactic to me.
There is such a button. It’s called, “log off”.
Have fun with that…
Also, Star Trek Online is over there>>>>> It’s absolutely free.
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Heh, it’s rather funny that you somehow seem to think that gankers will not account for all this and just use glass cannons as they do today.
If you know you lose over 1 bil in ships to CONCORD you will not go for the kill until you are reasonably sure you get the target.
What you and everyone else seems to be forgetting is that you choose to ‘empty spin’. It’s your choice. Nobody is forcing you to sit there and ship spin except yourself. So, what’s your point and where does the problem lie?
Essentially none of you have a point, and the ‘problem’ lies squarely at your own feet.
I imagine you’re exceptionally boring people to play with. Why anyone would want to sit and listen to you guys whine all night on comms I’ll never know. It’s little wonder you’re unlikely to ever achieve anything. So negative and needy.
It’s a listed exploit by CCP. So doesn’t matter what you or I think. CCP says it is an exploit so it is.
The question I was answering gets a little vague as to if a new hyperdunking 3.0 ends up being considered delaying Concord. Given the interpretation taken on 2.0 I would say yes it would regardless of method used. But till someone pushes the line and gets reported we won’t know.
I’m sure gankers will adapt. As I’ve always said I dont have a complaint that ganking happens or even the amount. I just have a complaint around the gameplay of the gank itself. If you want to overkill a ship to be sure or just accept they will kill some ships in return, not a problem, I’m good with that.
I chose not to, I chose to wait and not pay subscription till CCP offer real content, and I am here on forum to demand it.
Facon run on stage in Vegas full of empty spin and screaming “Blow away ■■■■” and I am telling hin that today people want real value for (subscription) money, not empty rude talks …
I’ll wait till PA clean game from BS and fire incompetent employee then I’ll buy subscription again.
I demand you demand more demands before your demands demand any further demands.
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I can demand, Net Ease made new client and server for Eve Online mobile, and now they have know how, PA have IP for Eve, who need CCP any more ???
Just wondering why every other ganker including everyone involved with previous Burn Jitas hasn’t been banned. Was just a question. 
I believe a pre pull isnt considered a delay, only once you go flashy but yeah… It would be nice of CCP to write clearer rules. Or even better, just make the system force your ship to self destruct rather than spawn a bunch of Npcs with the attendant lag that happens when you drop a disco ball somewhere in highsec and 100 Concord spawn. Then nearly all the manipulating concord bit goes out the window.
So when I got reported for hyperdunking and was banned for 15 days I was repediately undocking bombers from a citadel and shooting at a freighter I was keeping bumped against my structure.
Between ganks I would pull concord away from my ganking grid just like every ganker does when he’s done with a gank. There is nothing different about how I interacted with concord.
So if they would have banned me and given me the reason as being, “you are bypassing the criminal timer by boarding a bomber in a citadel and shooting at a freighter when normally you should have to wait 15 minutes” then I would understand what I did wrong. Instead they gave me a reason for being banned that is something that is done MANY times a day by lots of people.
Well concord by default is not spawned in a system. Everyday at downtime concord is reset and no concord exist on any grid. When they are spawned after the first criminal activity it changes their response time. If I gank on a gate, then 15 minutes later gank on a station in that system then the timer is different.
So what do you think is the issue with what I was doing? Was it bypassing the criminal timer or was it pulling concord to another location in the system? Would I still get a ban if I did the same thing but woth Tornados and never touched or messed with concord?
Except normally it’s done before going criminal. Not while being criminal. You are right its confusing though and it’s not good if there is confusion. Hence my preference for a much clearer “Concord has overridden your reactor safeties, your ship is self destructing in 15 seconds”. Which would also be more lore appropriate than invuln ships.
As for the rest of your questions, I already said I’m not playing the 50 questions game. You want to push the line and risk a permanent second strike ban. Up to you. I’ve stated my view.
My point is that CCP wants to be clarity and defined rules when it comes to wars, but not ganking?
I’m not disagreeing with you here. Though there will always be some gray areas because they can’t anticipate everything we might do. And if they draw too clear a line people will abuse those tiny shadows.
But I’m fully on board with more transparent systems around ganking. Like I mentioned the self destruct, suddenly there is no Concord to pull or engage for either side. If they dont want people to get back in a ship while criminal they could put an actual lock out in place when red flagged in highsec. “Concord is preventing your pod from interfacing”
These are just examples but yes, when it comes to clear systems I’m in support.
I also believe however they are limited by man hours. Just because no business hires enough staff to get all the small stuff done.
re read title of op
confused by last posts
fc what do??
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As expected in any war topic ganking is part of the conversation. Because if you cant do a legal war you have to gank whoever is annoying you instead.
Why are you so concerned with hisec? go play patty-cake in Delve and leave the rest of Eve alone.
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