It’s so bots can be profitable quicker with a new account. That way CCP can speed their bot banning up to make it appear like they’re doing something about it when really they want it to continue because RMT attracts Whales.
Afterall it can’t be fraud if Blizzard and GGG are doing it too.
Blizzard is the worst. They do a banwave and the next day post a 50% off sale on new accounts.
Mr Epeen 
Yea I will never play another game by that trash company again. CCP is about to be in the same bucket for me.
(not that they’ll have another successful game lol)
and yet we some how have millions of players while eve struggles to have 30k
Might have something to do with the fact that Blizzard is responsible for possibly first/original e-sports franchise ever made, and Warcraft games had millions of players before WoW was even announced, while EVE is an obscure sim made by a tiny Icelandic studio specifically for Australian descendants of British colonial exiles?
Seriously, why are like half of all EVE players Aussies? It’s uncanny.
The reason for all of this is because we recognize that “catering to casuals” has more advantages then disadvantages, and if a fraction of that mentality was implemented in eve, you’d see more then 30k here.
As i said in the past, Complexity and hardware requirements limits the max potential population in a game, which was one of eve’s biggest design flaws and a self-inflicting mortal wound that was imposed on this game from launch. This is why high sec needs to remove non-consensual pvp and op for consensual (mutual wars), because most of those people we cater to in our design positions 1. do not do pvp as a primary activity 2. do not do pvp at all. Roughly about 57% of the population in wow fall in category 1, and about 36/57% of that fall in category 2.
I tried to explain this to you guys many times but your so hard stuck on “easy cash/kills” that you cant see past your own abusive and unbalanced play for the betterment of eve.
We?
You a Blizz dev slumming in a space sim?
Mr Epeen 
You are kidding right?
Why do we need or want more than “30k” here?
everywhere i go in eve there is plenty of players IMO we don’t need more
edit:
btw the carebear fallacy
eve needs more players , also there is gankers everywhere
I want more things to do in space that do not impact space because CCP is too incompetent to properly manage and implement things affecting space.
Let me add some more to your line of thought.
(I decide to give an advertising I’m agreeing since people don’t read anymore).
CCP took some bad ideas, then their ideas went downhill (HS + botting + POS HS + ubber alt mining) ofc no honest player can keep it up with bad mechanics and mafia so they decide to took another bad idea (IMHO) and made the NPCs do the HS cleaning job. I gonna add here from my personal feeling, banning James and the other bump guy, totally stupid.
Now they are between making monay and finishing their ideas, one can only hope.
You’d also see a F2P trash “game” that would deserve to die. Blizzard’s games may have lots of addicts but they’re terrible games.
Complexity and hardware requirements limits the max potential population in a game
This is a good thing. EVE is targeted at a market that wants a deep and interesting game, not just a Blizzard-style grindfest where all that matters is how much money you spend on the F2P cash shop (unless you’re one of the no-life addicts who spends 18 hours a day grinding).
because most of those people we cater to in our design positions 1. do not do pvp as a primary activity 2. do not do pvp at all.
“We” do not cater to those positions. You want CCP to cater to them because you don’t understand game design and think it would be a good idea to throw away CCP’s guaranteed customer base in favor of trying to compete with the games that already do the F2P addiction-based business model better.
Because you can’t shoot wow bots if they don’t hve Warmode turned on lol. Most don’t.
Of late blizzard hasn’t really been cracking down here. We can make the joke they need the druid spamming farmers to boost metrics lol.
Some servers you can have the the fun game of guess how many owners are here. 50 bots, in a cycle. are they 5 owners 10 bots? 10 owners 5 bots?
Also blizzard doesn’t give sub numbers. Careful how you go about that one. At least 1 streamer has a stream saying subs have gone down 60% since shadowlands dropped.
Which we could argue on. Their imaginary numbers versus yours. Imaginary in that, again, blizzard stopped releasing numbers after the WoD exodus.
I’d also point out I am counting as a sub to wow. Except to claim my tree mount sunday on the eve 15 minute reset…I have not been in azeroth at all for a week. Won’t be most likely till it ends this month when sub ends.
Subs does not equal playing players the take away.
Edit: also some sub for classic. Soon to be TBC. I won’t lie, if I resub before 9.3…I’d be in outland. Not in retail.
This is all a bunch of nonsense by a player who is salty that wow has millions of players while sucking and catering to players and eve is amazing but no one is good enough to play it.
We call this being “delusional”
I dont know, having one game that is number one consecutive seller for 9 years losing the 10th by 36 copies then winning another three consecutive years, that is kinda /flex.
Then we have wow which has set the trend for all current mmos, and everyone has wanted to be it calling it the “holy grail of subscription win”.
The remainder of the games (Excluding diablo 3) are in a similar field of excellence and success, of which are not only by popularity but also income.
Hearthstone, you know that little card game, makes more then eve and has more players. Imagine that!
Yea, Im gona have to go with “your a bad ceo, and dont have a clue how to run ccp” on top of “eve has lot of suck that needs real designers to fix, you had some, but they all gquit cuz of your stupidity”.
get good merin aka helmar.
Once again you fail to understand the difference between quality and profitability.
McDonalds makes obscene amounts of profit every year by selling trash. Their food is objectively poor in quality but they’ve identified a market that wants to buy trash food and made a ton of money exploiting it.
Blizzard makes money selling trash games based on exploiting addictive behavior and poor impulse control. Their games are poor in quality but they’ve identified a market that is vulnerable to that kind of design and make a ton of money exploiting it.
CCP may bow to pressure from their F2P mobile trash owners and implement more changes aimed at driving short-term profit from F2P cash shop whales but that doesn’t make those decisions good game design.
Then we have wow which has set the trend for all current mmos, and everyone has wanted to be it calling it the “holy grail of subscription win”.
That’s certainly some revisionist history given that you’re on the forums for a game that existed before WoW. And whose greatest growth and success occurred in an era where CCP deliberately created a game that was not WoW.
Hearthstone, you know that little card game, makes more then eve and has more players. Imagine that!
Only by exploiting gambling addiction. Hearthstone is not exactly something any decent person should be proud of.
This is a bit delusional.
People love WoW. It’s a good game for the people who like that kind of game. Those people number in the millions. They aren’t all confused addicts unable to find a ‘good’ game.
You have a superiority complex that is causing you to look down on people who don’t agree with your definition of ‘good’ when it comes to games. Everything you said is entirely subjective but presented as objective fact.
Sometimes when there’s you and 10 other people that think something is ‘good’ and 10,000,000 other people who think something you consider to be trash is good, you might just have to reconsider what society at large considers good.
CCP are going to, quite rightly as a business, target what 10,000,000 people consider good, not what you and your 10 mates consider ‘good’.
Out of interest, how would someone like me fit into all this, a person who has played EVE since 2003 and WoW since 2004?
I think @Merin_Ryskin makes a pretty good point here and I entirely agree.
IMHO gambling is a stunning con trick, stunning because it is a total and utter con and yet somehow it’s still legal for globally organised companies to systemically prey on the vulnerable (WTAF?!).
The truth is that, the entire business model of the gambling industry, relies solely upon convincing the suckers sorry, players, that although their chances of winning are infinitesimally small, victory for them, against all odds, is just around the corner if they’ll only bet just a little bit more.
IMHO, they’re little better than drug dealers.
Last year the gambling industry made 26.87B dollars which puts EVE kinda in perspective a little.
I really hope that, as a game, EVE aims slightly higher than this, because hopefully CCP realise that it’s about way more than money.
People love McDonalds. It’s a good meal for the people who like that kind of meal. Those people number in the billions. They aren’t all confused addicts unable to find a ‘good’ meal.
Sorry, but WoW is a terrible game. It’s a menial slog through boring as hell content where 95% of the incentive to keep playing is the way Blizzard exploits gambling addiction with RNG loot and an ever-increasing level/loot cap that forces you to keep putting hours into the slot machine even once you finally win. Take away the addiction mechanics and it’s a game that few people would play for more than an hour or two.
CCP are going to, quite rightly as a business, target what 10,000,000 people consider good, not what you and your 10 mates consider ‘good’.
Quite wrongly, you mean. Even if you assume that WoW’s market is a valid one WoW already has it locked down. CCP would have to be insane to throw away their guaranteed customer base in a desperate attempt to draw customers away from WoW. There’s a reason why WoW still exists and game after game after game after game that tried to compete with WoW have all failed.
Out of interest, how would someone like me fit into all this, a person who has played EVE since 2003 and WoW since 2004?
Someone who eats at McDonalds and also eats real food.