What do you think of ganking?

When I used to play 12 or 13 years ago, High Sec was actually dangerous. It was filled with players and gankers were all over the place patrolling the trade routes (the areas between trade hubs). Picture Uedama, but all along the trade routes.

There were also a lot more miners and ore was worth something. Ice belts were permanent instead of just anomalies.

Thus, miners wrre more militant and had their own ganking ships that they used to defend their territories. In short, High Sec was fun.

I really didn’t know what I was doing back then and I had no idea how to fit a ship. Mentors were hard to find. It was too cutthroat. I joined a null sec corp, got no help, and came back to High Sec until I quit.

Fast forward to a year ago and I decided to try again. This time I hit the internet and did my research on ships, fits, strategies, etc.. I decided on a Skiff because I didn’t know the state of things. I knew I could just buy PLEX so ISK wasn’t an issue.

I learned about shield tanking and got some help and advice from a miner in an ice belt. I made some friends and got into a small corp. I shield tanked the hell out of the Skiff and saw quickly that things had died down a lot. High Sec is nothing now.

I ran into Aiko a few times and she always ganked ships around me while leaving me alone because she knew she didnt have enough players to take on my Skiff. I did get attacked once, but my shields didn’t drop below 50%.

I eventually had my fun taunting gankers, sold the Skiff, and moved to a quiet corner where I dont get noticed. Every now and then, I find a new home.

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Does this mean you’ve defeated Aiko? :thinking:

:popcorn:

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They cost the same actually. I figured they’d be more. I just looked it up and they’re about the same price.

There are ways to not get ganked. It’s been said over and over by many people that ganking is nothing more than a mathematic equation. Your tank vs. the number and type of enemy ships. One side wins. One side loses. I didn’t get blown up. That’s a win. That was the goal.

But that was then. I fly an Orca now. That ship allows me to have a shield tank without sacrificing mining boosts and a Hulk alt to make up for not having drone rigs on the Orca. It works. But, the only ore worth mining now is moon ore which is only every weekend. Sure, Scordite got a buff, but when you calculate the cost of heavy water and mining boos scripts, there still isn’t much profit. I can mine out a whole belt in my 0.5 system really quickly, but the profit isn’t high enough to be proud of all that work. So I moon mine and that’s about it. During the week, I explore and do other stuff. I tend to the structures, top off the fuel bays, and chase down the diamond rats in a Vindicator or Proteus. It’s more of a challenge in a Proteus. I’ll soon open up a spreadsheet and mine out each ore one by one and compare its value against the cost of Orca fuel.

Enough rambling.

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:popcorn: @Princess Aiko @Aiko_Danuja

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Or you know………….

You could just have fun.

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I am.

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Bro is a veteran and I’m just a new player.

Like sorry, I’m just a new player learning to PvP.

Calm down, ganker

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Don’t bully me, mean man miner Glen!!

Thats what I thought till I joined one and got access for very little real effort.

I used to hate em cos it was a doss

I love em now cos its a doss

Watch out he has a big Skiff too, he could be dangerous. Though he claims he sold it so you might be safe after all. :thinking:

:blush:

If you pay 5B and up for a Skiff, no wonder you can’t make money with mining…

On the True Purpose of ‘Ganking’ in New Eden

There’s a lot of chatter out there, isn’t there? People, especially those clinging to their mining lasers, moan about ‘ganking’ as if it’s some blight on their game. They whine about ‘fairness,’ about ‘unbalanced’ mechanics. Honestly, listen to yourselves. I’ve seen this play out countless times. They may say they come for the ice and ore, but what they really need is purpose, structure, and guidance. And sometimes, that guidance comes with a very loud, very final bang.

What follows is not just my take; it’s an outline of the functional reality that defines our universe.

Highsec Isn’t Your Nursery – It’s a Classroom

First, this endless wailing about “gankers can’t PvP” is, frankly, quite pathetic. These accusations often come from those who, if we’re being honest, lack a fundamental grasp of EVE’s true nature. This isn’t some polite duel arena. Blowing up another player’s ship in high-security space, often requiring precise timing and synchronized efforts to bypass CONCORD, is absolutely a form of player-versus-player combat. It demands intel, coordination, and resource management. To orchestrate a proper gank—to bring the right ships, apply enough damage before CONCORD arrives, and manage your assets—that takes far more strategic thinking than just clicking an asteroid. It’s a specialized skill, and yes, it is PvP. Anyone who says otherwise simply doesn’t understand the depths of conflict in New Eden.

They complain about cargo scanners. “It’s not fair! They can see my loot!” Well, guess what? This isn’t a nursery. This is New Eden, where information is power. If you choose to parade valuable cargo through busy lanes without understanding the countless eyes on you, well, that’s a choice, isn’t it? The game doesn’t ‘side’ with anyone; it simply allows players to make calculated moves. It’s not about being ‘fair’ in some schoolyard sense; it’s about being sharp, being aware.

Molding Better Pilots: The EVE Way

They often talk about “cynicism,” about losing their precious ships and how that’s just so negative . And oh, the ‘tough luck’ comments! Yes, you lost your ship. It’s gone. That’s called consequence . That’s what gives a successful operation, a successful haul, real meaning. If everything just popped back into your hangar, this would be a glorified spreadsheet simulator, not a living universe where actions truly matter. I find that I’m often saving players from themselves. Without some challenge, there’s no real freedom.

The very act of getting ganked often serves as a most effective, albeit painful, lesson. It forces players to learn. To fit their ships correctly, to maintain situational awareness, to actually pay attention to their surroundings. Flying a flimsy Venture AFK in an asteroid belt, ignoring local chat, or just not bothering to put on a decent shield – that’s not the game being unfair; that’s a total lack of situational awareness and personal responsibility. It’s a player’s choice to be oblivious. And when consequences arrive, well, perhaps they’ll learn. They will become more capable players.

The True Social Dynamics of Highsec

And for those who claim ganking somehow hinders social play? Nonsense. For any target of reasonable value, ganking demands teamwork . It requires aggressors to organize fleets, time their attacks perfectly, and manage their disposable ships. That takes true cooperation, far more than just clicking rocks alone. And for the targets? It actually compels them to engage with their neighbors, to form protective convoys, to seek out reliable corporations. This isn’t just about blowing up ships; it’s about forcing interaction, building real (or terrifyingly effective) communities. Every player who enters high-security territory quickly learns its true nature.

Economic Discipline and the Cost of Ignorance

Let’s talk economics. If ISK could be endlessly generated without any risk, the entire market would collapse. Ganking acts as a crucial economic pressure valve. It consumes ships and modules, ensuring there’s constant demand. It forces players to think about the actual value of their cargo versus the risk, encouraging smarter hauling practices and preventing the easy, endless accumulation of wealth. It drives the market. It maintains a certain order.

This is simply how EVE operates. It’s a fundamental part of the game’s design.

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You pay 5b for a Gila? It’s a cruiser.

Starting to think Glen doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

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Based on his own admission he lacks knowledge and might have to do some more research:

:thinking:

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Im still waiting to know where i said I paid 5b for a Skiff or would pay 5b for a Gila. That one has me perplexed.

What a load of bollox.