What do you think would bring eve into a new golden age

Oh God no. Then you’d have to wait for 2 hours every time you log in while it says ‘Update is 99% complete’

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Gatecamp would be seen as bring the fight to them and with the FW hotzone filaments would be bringing them to the fight.

A gatecamp could become a hotzone and such filament would look at regional combat logs to become a hotzone.

/Thinking on the lines of FW Response Filament.

I’m just not a fan of filaments in general. The ones we already have make things too easy. Take the Pochven filament, for example. You filament into Pochven in a dirt cheap fit, just long enough to kill a single Rogue Drone, then either filament out or get yourself blown up and clone back to high sec. Now you have positive standing with Triglavians everywhere for little to no effort whatsoever…

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Your right, just wanted to bring something to the thread to redirect from that hell whole scense unfolding.

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That’s the way it always goes. ‘History’ gets retrospectively updated with hindsight and shades of tinting. And sure…I’ve said others do this thus by definition I do myself. But at least I admit it happens. The only thing I can say is that being closer to being a noob I have less imagined stuff to fill the intervening space with. Of course after 10 years I’ll be part of Monty Python’s 4 Yorkshiremen.

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that is true

I don’t have the answer as how to bring EVE into a new Golden Age, but I do have some small suggestions that would improve various aspects of gameplay.

Missions, for example. They need to be expanded upon and renewed. Give mission runners a reason to have high standings with various factions and NPC corps. Give players some sort of publicly viewable medal in their bio for having 5.0, 7.0, or 10.0 standing with a faction or NPC corp. Maybe unlock some clothing like shirts or hats from getting 10.0 standing with corps like Interbus, Quafe, and others. Little things like that are a good start.

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And the AIR* Career *Program can become the delivery point for such achievement unlocks.

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It takes CCP too long to implement any good ideas and even then, they would still bugger it up.

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The ability to directly sell LP instead of first having to convert it into an item in the LP store. Set up some kind of exchange rate for ISK to LP and just sell LP directly to non-mission runners so they can go and buy the things they want from the LP store directly, or trade it for LP from other NPC corps. Players, especially mission runner, would eat that up like hotcakes. You would then have many more mission runners out and about doing missions for NPC corps that most runners don’t even bother doing. Plus you would now have that many more targets in space. It’s a win/win for everyone…

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Another one is achievements and titles. That is, if they can get the activity tracker back to working properly. Give players a title viewable in space or in their bio. For example, the title for destroying 10,000 Mordu’s Legion ships might be Mordu’s Mangler, or something like that. Master Hacker or Master Relic Hunter for players who have successfully hacked 5,000 cans. There are many players who like public recognition for the time they have put into the game, and that would be one way to give it to them…

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Is 2,277,080 lp with 24 corps a lot?

I must have committed a carebear. :grimacing:

I wouldn’t mind being able to just sell that off.

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I’m right there with you. My main mission runner has only positive standings with 21 factions, 162 NPC corps, and no telling how much LP…

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I’m + to 14. Better than I thought…

Not easy to do, has several restrictions, and takes multiple accounts to pull off, but remaining positive with every faction and corp in the game can be done…

Well said!

TBH there’s a lot of quite funny and hilarious “luxury!” we’ve enjoyed in EVE over the years. The problem on the player side is reminiscing about those handfuls of incidents as being “the real EVE” instead of the comparatively rare and isolated incidents they were (relative to having 30-40-50k player populations 24/7).

But player perceptions mostly only make for forum and social media entertainment (although I’m sure they have some degree of impact on CCP - just not a lot).

The real issue is that CCP isn’t driven by gamers, or good businessmen. It’s helmed by Hilmar and his band of cronies. For the most part, the devs remaining are only the ones that haven’t left for greener pastures over the years, or been turfed for being too outspoken, or just quit in frustration over the inability to get actually good ideas implemented.

As long as the people making the decisions have no clue about managing a successful business, and even less clue about good game design, we’ll be stuck with an EVE that changes at a glacial pace, and every half-decade or so goes into financial crisis and needs to be bailed out by the next sucker that believes CCPs words rather than their actions.

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So… leaderboards are cancer, leading to the downfall of the game.

But achievement medals and publicly viewable awards are small steps towards a golden age.

It’s all so much clearer now…

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Not even remotely the same as a public leaderboard. It’s a medal of recognition in your bio that no one will ever see unless they inspect your character…

Sorry, but the concept still revolves around “public recognition for your achievements motivates gameplay”.

The important distinction appears to be “ideas suck when you have them, but they’re solid when I have them.”

At any rate, the things you suggest all look like good ideas to me. I’d have a few thoughts:

I think this probably would lead to a more active LP earn/trade environment, but this seems to go against your own oft-stated disgust at “the current generation” and their desire for easy brainless quick gratification, rather than the depth of knowledge and time that EVE takes.

Converting LP into the proper items and marketing them requires more effort, time and game knowledge, which seems to be the thing you keep saying EVE hinges upon.

Your idea here appears to favor quick, easy convenience - just go farm LP, post direct on market. Other players who need it just buy direct off market. I suspect it would be a good change, it just seems an odd thing for you to suggest, given your loudly stated preferences.

This is the point of encouraging more activites and playstyles, yes. Except there’s this whole crowd that keeps saying “That activity is wrong! That playstyle is bad! People shouldn’t be doing those things… not in my sandbox MMO!”.

Another good idea. Kind of weird that we’re back to “publicly viewable achievements are good motivatiors - unless Kezrai suggested it first, in which case it will destroy EVE.”

Whatever. I’m glad you’re on board with the concept, however it came about. Hopefully someday CCP learns to distinguish good ideas from bad, and starts working on some of these things.

Thank you for taking the time to post good, and workable, ideas for the improvement of EVE.

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Again, you know exactly what i meant. You’re just being argumentative for the sake of argument…

A public FPS shooter type KD/R leaderboard would, indeed, be pure cancer. Those types of players tend to camp, bot, and exploit to remain at the top. You won’t see PVE players lording over everyone that they have 10.0 standing with Poteque Pharmaceuticals or Caldari Steel… :wink:

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