Where did this goldmine went?

Hello !

While exploring in Sansha’s invaded space today, I managed to scan down a Nation’s Prison Camp, and the DED Database seems to tell a bit of lore about it. However, when I tried to click on the “mindlock” link to see where it’d send me, I saw that the link sent nowhere… Or that its destination go deleted.

So, I’d like to know : does anybody know anything about the wiki.eveonline.com this DED database extract refers too ? And why did it got deleted from the public access ?

Also, if anybody actually remember what was there about “mindlock”, I’d love to know more about it, and everything related to the Sansha’s Nation, please !

Leaving the screenshot for good measure :slight_smile:
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The official EVE wiki was deleted years ago because CCP thinks that, despite ridiculously comprehensive player contributions, other player contributed wikis would be better. And since we are talking about CCP they forgot that they had included links to the wiki ingame.

Try to look this DED plex and mind lock stuff up on EVE Uni’s wiki which copied over most of the data. Maybe you are lucky and find the link there.

I looked it up, and apparently it wasn’t copied…

Since it states “the unlucky survivor is either left in a comatose state SIMILAR to Mind Lock…” I would suspect they are talking about this:

https://community.eveonline.com/backstory/short-stories/the-jovian-wet-grave/

At least that’s the place I’ve seen mind lock spoken about.

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wiki.eveonline.com was replaced with fiction.eveonline.com.

Thank you for your answer :slight_smile:
I suppose CCP didn’t rewrite each and every one of their old articles in their new lore portal ?

It’s a work in progress - there are still quite a few 404 links in the Portal, though it’s a lot better than what it was in its launch. Some articles have gotten rewrites or additions, a lot has stayed the same, too. Regretfully the Fiction Portal doesn’t have any feeds like what is recently updated or added.

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To answer your question about Mind Lock specifically. Mind Lock is a condition where a potential pilot links with a ship VIA a pod, however they either do not have the necessary training to withstand the mental shock or the shock to their mind is to great and after the pilot is removed from the pod they are paralyzed and unable to interact with anyone or anything and are essentially “locked” within their mind.

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Well, Fuzzwork has a rehosted EvElopedia dump, but it’s got a lot of red links from what I can see. I don’t suppose anything from the old wiki that wasn’t carried over can be found on Archive.org’s wayback machine?

Backstage wiki has most of what EVElopedia had.

Most anything not there can be found on Wayback Machine, but you need to know the specific article name as you can’t use search on wayback.

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I wonder how much is gone forever? It’s kinda sad to think about. :pensive:

So I’m returning after being away from EVE for several years. What happened to Evelopedia? I used to love looking around on there, so much good information.

CCP shut it down, unfortunately. I don’t get why they couldn’t have just migrated it to another wiki site.

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They partially migrated it to the Fiction Portal which is organized like tumblr instead of a wiki, thus making it much harder to navigate.

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In light of both Evelopedia’s shutdown in 2016 and EvE-Inspiracy going on the blink, I have recently concluded that us lore nerds must begin considering the not-so-insignificant issue of redundancy.

As things stand, we could lose nearly everything if Inspiracy went offline completely or suffered a hardware failure, and we’ll still suffer a blow if CCP suddenly decides to take down their fiction portal for whatever reason. I doubt that the latter will actually happen, but it’s better to be safe than sorry.

Thankfully there are multiple sites that we could use to back up the information, which I will list below.

  • EVE Wikia: Yes, it’s a Wikia/Fandom page, but that also makes it easy to transcribe the lore information and citations for it. Since it’s not UniWiki we also don’t need to worry about listing the technical details of stats or mechanics, and can thus catalog things that were removed from the game without confusing anyone.

  • UniWiki: The EVE University Wiki may focus on teaching gameplay mechanics, but it does have a lore section that’s been sorely neglected and in need of expanding. Since it’s also the first wiki to pop up when I search for “EvE Online wiki” in my browser, I think it’s also safe to say that this is the first wiki many players will come across when they go looking for one.

  • EVE-Wiki.net: Considering that you need to dig to find this site when browsing I wouldn’t be surprised if few people know it exists; but it does, and it’s been online since the heady days of 2005, which (possibly) makes it the oldest EvE Online wiki in use today. Unfortunately, what I’ve seen of the place indicates that it really needs to be updated. Hopefully, we can work on that.

  • Backstage Lore Wiki: Yeah, yeah, I know I was talking about backups in case this site failed, but it’s still a good resource that needs to be worked on, especially with so many pages that need to be deleted and restored so the site doesn’t tell you the page “does not exist”.

One primary site and three alternatives mean that we can achieve a level of redundancy that would protect us from severe loss of information should Inspiracy or the fiction portal go down, so long as we’re all willing to work on it together.

If and when you decide to help me with this, please remember to use citations when you add content and don’t remove something that lacks a citation unless it’s blatantly false. There are some things on the other wikis that are old or unverified, but that doesn’t mean they should be deleted outright.

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Important not to forget that everything is available on Wayback Machine.

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Everything? Every page, document, and image, all of it kept reasonably up-to-date by regular back-ups?

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I found an “Eve Lore Wiki”, if that’s of interest to anyone.

As far as I know, yes, everything that was on EVElopedia up to when it went down is available on the Wayback Machine version of the site. At least, I have yet to encounter anything there that hasn’t worked. Any articles I can’t find on Backstage, have always been found on Wayback.

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Well that’s good to hear! What about the pictures and such, were they saved?