Why antigank?

I said that a long time ago and I was immediately told by everyone (including you) that I was wrong.

There are exceptions to the rule , an annoying clown isn’t one of them

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Not even that. You just need to scout and be alert. For example, 28 jumps from Hek to Uemisaisen, I just keep my scout one jump ahead. When I get to Sivala I log off for 15 mins or half an hour or more…so everyone forgets I was there, as they have more immediate targets. Then I log in again later and make a dash for it. Nobody’s expecting me in the pipeline…and my scout tells me if Uedama is clear.

Done this scores of times and it works every time.

I’m a new player and skilling some characters for PVP to protect my industrial operations. I wouldn’t say I’m going to try to save anyone from gankers but I do obviously want to protect my own industrial operations. So I wonder if I fall into the anti-ganking group even though I find ganking keeps the experience fun and interesting. After all, its because of the gankers that I’ve a reason to learn new skills to protect against the ganking. It’s kind of like thanking the gankers but also preparing to protect my operations vigorously against them. Hopefully, this is a rationale take.

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As a new pilot, the way to protect your industry would be to focus on the fitting along with the cargo value.

Where possible, you will experience interesting interactions while trying to provide support to your fellow highsec traveler’s.

The downside is that time lost for next to zero results.

Though we can’t tell you what to expect from each encounter, we can say good luck!

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As well as gankers, you will need to look out for ore thieves

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Especially if they mine ice, these nasty thieves pack that juicy ice and run away with all that frost. :thinking:

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Oh I see, it’s why they called Frost Packers :rofl:

Nothing gets past Inspector Uriel the flame.

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Did someone say economics and free markets!

Being as greedy as possible I can tell you, that he’s mining and blockade running all wrong.

It’s all about numbers and net worth, why sit there for 2 minutes cycle times with orca boost in highsec? Gotta understand the environment, know the people. Gotta run the covetors when it’s quiet out and your in a fleet, run the retrievers when your all by your lonesome and then use the procurer when things feel out of place. Each ship is a tool in your box, you should be using them to your full advantage so the ore and isk never stops. Gotta get yourself a cute dragoon and turn it into a nice salvage ship to eat your kills, don’t leave anything to waste and process it all in while your collecting goodies from your planetary gardens.

I know I’m still a poor at only 60 billion, but one day I’ll have a yacht as nice as my neighbors. -sighs-

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It’s actually funny because the only thing anti-gankers actually achieve is edging out new players who came to this game to PvP. Works for me vOv less competition but kinda seems stupid. Y’all dont actually understand you do us vet gankers a favor by making the barrier to entry into ganking way higher than it was when we started. You are a part of the reason Eve doesn’t retain new players and that’s really all you manage to accomplish. Honestly pretty hilarious!

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Well, you are making the same point I’ve made elsewhere that many of those who claim to be ‘helping’ the game are precisely its worst enemies. People who want to remove risk from EVE have totally lost the plot…and for them to think they are helping noobs is laughable.

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Whatever happened to that famous anti gwanker @Githany_Red ?

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Your best bet is to know your environment are you in highsec? If so do you think you can undock and warp to save yourself from a Gank? In the span of 15 or so seconds that gank is done and over and your fellow miners are fighting for your frozen corpse.

Your best bet is hanging out in a procurer tank that ■■■■ hard dont worry about what your pulling in your at least pulling something. Talk to orca pilots and see if they are willing to map out the big bads of an area, get adjusted and aquainted with a Frigate and Dragoon. If a orca pilot allows you into his flock tip accordingly it will give them an incentive to take you again, and your better protected with armor or shield boosts on top of your mining boost.

Use a frigate to jump into a site, and use that sweet sweet micro warp to navigate the outskirts. Ctrl B that spot like a pro and jump back to it in your barge or venture, your not invincible but you got a good chance to survive.

If they probed your ass you better clench your cheeks cause they can literally jump on you from wherever. But if your got armor they going to shoot for a softer target say coveter or retriever.

That’s why knowing who’s who is so important you see the baddie dock and jump clone to another area rinse and repeat.

In this game knowledge and how you apply it makes all the difference, having a ship out there is a waste of time you gotta out fox the foxes.

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One thing you missed - miners are lazy asses

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Almost forgot that part thank you Zaera!
I can tell them all day how not to get killed, ignore me get spanked by safety then cry about how unfair ganking is.
Only so many ****** to give before you run out lol :laughing:

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The golden rule for mining…always mine on the opposite side of the asteroid belt to the landing point, and make sure your line of sight to any escape point is not the same line as the asteroids. And be wary of any seemingly friendly other ships getting too close, as they may be the warp in point for gankers.

I’d also advise…don’t use the same asteroid bookmarks forever. Make new ones now and then, as gankers can simply make note of the position you always mine at.

You are under the impression that the miner is an intelligent life form. In actual fact:

A miner is a small rodent, usually found near Planets, in and around asteroid belts. Miners form the subfamily Arvicolinae (also known as Microtinae) together with voles and muskrats, which form part of the superfamily Muroidea, which also includes rats, mice, hamsters and gerbils. A longstanding myth holds that they exhibit herd mentality and jump off cliffs, committing mass suicide, but this is untrue as is actually the rare species of doughnut called the F1 Monkey

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Probably wise to add that the warp-in character may be cloaked…

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Hey you - stop giving away my secrets.

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Also funfact: you can bookmark asteroids and warp to them or at a distance to them at different angles so the scout doesn’t even have to get nearby your ship to make a warp-in BM regardless if it’s a covops scout or other. :eyes:

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