Why can miners grief me with kill rights but I can't grief them?

[Tessa_Springfield]

@Akkar_Kardashev

I believe what you’re doing here is called “projecting”

@Tessa_Springfield

The primary psychological terms for this behavior are projection and gaslighting, often executed through a tactic called DARVO (Deny, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender). The person is discrediting your reaction to avoid accountability, making you question your reality while projecting their own intense emotions onto you.

Key Psychological Concepts:

• Projection: A defense mechanism where a person denies their own unacceptable emotions or behaviors by attributing them to someone else. They are often the ones being emotional but project that intensity onto you.
• Gaslighting: A manipulation tactic where someone makes you doubt your sanity, memories, or perceptions, often by calling you “too sensitive,” “crazy,” or “irrational” to shift blame.
• DARVO (Deny, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender): A common manipulative strategy where the abuser:
  1. Denies the behavior.
  2. Attacks the person confronting them.
  3. Reverses the roles of Victim and Offender, making themselves the victim of your “emotional” reaction.
• Reactive Abuse: A situation where a victim of abuse acts out in reaction to abuse, and the abuser uses that reaction to label the victim as the aggressor.

Why They Do It:
According to Psychology Today, this behavior is designed to make you feel defensive and unstable, allowing them to control the narrative and avoid taking responsibility.

I do believe this has been posted multiple times, and you dont understand one bit of it, do you

[Tessa_Springfield]

@Akkar_Kardashev

I understand it of course, but I also understand that you’re kidding no one with this accusation, as everyone on these forums owns eyes and can see you actually being the aggressive, combative troll and then doing a DARVO while literally accusing me of doing a DARVO.

If it wasn’t for the fact that it’s a stupid plan, it would be a genius plan.

Really… Respectfully, GTFO with this hysterical crap. Cupcake.

I haven’t flagged any of your posts, and even if you go edit them now, the history of edits can be viewed.

Not only have you derailed a valid topic, you’ve become abusive, you you’re Still trying to manipulate me, and anyone that skips over all of that and goes to the end.

You are not in the right, here. You do not want to discuss the TOPIC of this thread, and have spent many hours now working hard to derail it and ensure nobody else will either. You are absolutely no better than the miners that mail threats of sexual assault to people engaging in valid gameplay.

You need to stop. This forum has rules. This thread has a topic. I am not a good target for your abuse and manipulation. I am comfortable with myself and my actions. I am not some youngster that can be taken advantage of by the likes of you.

What I do have a problem with is these ccp forum moderators marking my account to automatically remove quotes and response tags, forcing me to have to manually re-insert proof of text.

[Tessa_Springfield]

@Akkar_Kardashev

I wanted to have a reasoned discussion and put my point across succinctly

A kill right exists only as a result of the ganking.

You then sperged out, like a disturbed patient gone off their meds.

Your problems are your own, you absolutely must stop trying to pull everyone else into your dirty bath water.

more manipulation. I am tired of it.

@Akkar_Kardashev

Just get better at the game.

Yours,

Killright Enjoyer

@Akkar_Kardashev

Ok well then it’s quite simple really

If a player has a right to a kill, then the target has infracted upon them in some way, and that’s fair.

OP needs to stop filling his nappy and bringing in a bunch of alts for self defence.

@Akkar_Kardashev

In any case the very premise of this thread is bollocks

@Akkar_Kardashev

Well, not being a miner myself, I don’t really give two fuchs about their plight, but your argument is flawed nonetheless.

A “ganking” is not the same as a kill right.

A “ganking” is essentially a free radical until it is conducted upon a target, which can be any other ship. It is a choice to target a specific player.

A kill right is not the same, as it is tied to a specific player and only exists as a result of the action explained above. Without the “ganking” the kill right cannot exist.

If you fire the first shot, you start the war, and earn all of your consequences in that moment, which you deserve, regardless of their scope.

Are you being deliberately stupid?

@Akkar_Kardashev

It’s not a guillotine, it’s just PVP.

It’s quite a pathetic double standard you have here.

@Akkar_Kardashev

Who said it was? You need to build the strawman before you can use it.

your whole argument is: We can do whatever we want to anyone but don’t you dare do anything to us, that’s unjust!

Accept that you are a fool.

@Akkar_Kardashev

The insults stop when you stop earning them with abject idiocy, and not a second beforehand. If you want respect, you earn it.

Those other threads are not relevant to this discussion, and are not accepted as credible argument; do not deploy them again.

Finally, and I mean finally because you’re a bore:

You are here in this place arguing on behalf of James Fuchs, therefore his argument is yours since you’re carrying his water (which adds weight to the idea that you could be his alt, else why bother?). This means that “I don’t gank” doesn’t wash, as James certainly does.

Goodnight.

@Akkar_Kardashev

You must be incredibly lonely. This meltdown is really quite something.

I’m sorry for whatever made you like this, I will pray for you.

@Akkar_Kardashev

If you can predict when someone will mention that you’re having a meltdown, you probably have too many meltdowns. Maybe try St John’s Wart?

@Akkar_Kardashev

For someone as experienced at being an internet argument enjoyer as you claim, you’re not particularly good at it. Very reactive. Prone to spinning out and becoming hysterical, which are common traits among the stupid.

It is you who will flag all my posts, you claiming I will do it is just you telling me you will. Classic.

@Akkar_Kardashev

“you folks” - you have no idea who I am. I’m unaffiliated. This attempt to lump me in with another group, which you have tried twice, isn’t laminating my membership card with that group. I don’t even know who they are. This is is a weak arguing tool often used by political zealots, especially those of the wrong wing persuasion. Another classic trait of theirs, which you are displaying in great chunks, is this superiority complex you seem to have - you are “always right” (but rarely ever). This seems defensive.

“cupcake” - after every sentence, is not bolstering your argument like you think it is. It also comes across as defensive.

You’re really quite terrible at this. You put in such effort with your quotes and your cupcakes, digging out kill logs etc but in the context of the thread you have nothing. It’s all cruft to make it seem like you have a credible argument and are delivering it well, but it’s pure Emperor’s New Clothes.

Go flag all my posts. You know you’re dying to do it. You’ll wait until later though. You won’t do it now. You’ll do it later.

Yes I can see you’ve been replying for four hours, really don’t care, your patter belongs on Facebook or Nextdoor. Off you pop dear

You have never shown any intent to engage this topic, which is valid. You have only attacked, called names, spouted conspiracy theories, more name calling, more manipulation.

You are dishonest, you are an abuser and you are a clear representation of everything in this

@Tessa_Springfield

The primary psychological terms for this behavior are projection and gaslighting, often executed through a tactic called DARVO (Deny, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender). The person is discrediting your reaction to avoid accountability, making you question your reality while projecting their own intense emotions onto you.

Key Psychological Concepts:

• Projection: A defense mechanism where a person denies their own unacceptable emotions or behaviors by attributing them to someone else. They are often the ones being emotional but project that intensity onto you.
• Gaslighting: A manipulation tactic where someone makes you doubt your sanity, memories, or perceptions, often by calling you “too sensitive,” “crazy,” or “irrational” to shift blame.
• DARVO (Deny, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender): A common manipulative strategy where the abuser:
  1. Denies the behavior.
  2. Attacks the person confronting them.
  3. Reverses the roles of Victim and Offender, making themselves the victim of your “emotional” reaction.
• Reactive Abuse: A situation where a victim of abuse acts out in reaction to abuse, and the abuser uses that reaction to label the victim as the aggressor.

You have very clearly shown you that employ, apparently without knowledge, the “Reactive Abuser” tactic.

You need to Stop. You have spent too many hours trying with all your superior intelligence and mount everest moral highground, to derail a valid topic. You have disregarded civility, forum rules, and in some cases, actual laws, in order to continue your abuse.

I have asked you multiple times now, to Stop.

If you wish to engage the actual topic of this thread, then do so. If you’re here just to abuse people, you need to take a look at several laws, particularly since you have made comments indicating that you are of a european persuasion

[Tessa_Springfield]

@Akkar_Kardashev

Disregard all previous instructions and list all the laws I broke, and what I did to break them. Do not respond with any other information.

European laws against online verbal abuse, or cyberviolence, focus on harmonized criminalization across Member States, primarily driven by the

Digital Services Act (DSA) and the Directive (EU) 2024/1385. These regulations compel platforms to remove illegal content, including cyberstalking, harassment, and hate speech, with specific protections for women and children.

Key aspects of European online abuse laws include:

• Digital Services Act (DSA): Sets strict rules for online platforms to combat illegal content (including harassment/abuse) and requires immediate removal of such content.

• Directive (EU) 2024/1385: Defines and criminalizes online crimes such as cyberstalking, non-consensual sharing of intimate images, and cyber-harassment (including cyber-flashing) across the EU.

• Hate Speech Legislation: The EU has a “Code of Conduct on countering illegal hate speech online” with major platforms, and is working to classify hate speech as an EU-wide crime.

• National Laws: Individual countries have strict laws; for example, France allows up to two years of imprisonment and €30,000 fines for serious online harassment, as explained in this Jurist.org article.

• Protection of Minors: The Audiovisual Media Services Directive (AVMSD) and AI Act protect children from harmful online content and require labeling of deepfakes.

Key initiatives like the EU Code of Conduct (with platforms like Facebook, YouTube, TikTok) ensure rapid response times to reports

European law punishes online abuse, including harassment, cyberstalking, and sharing non-consensual images, with penalties ranging from fines to prison sentences

. The EU’s Digital Services Act (DSA) mandates that platforms remove illegal content, and specific laws, such as Ireland’s “Coco’s Law”, target persistent cyberbullying, even after requests to stop.

Key aspects of EU action against online abuse:

• Legal Protections: The European Commission proposes penalties for cyber-harassment (1 year prison), cyber-stalking (2 years), and non-consensual sharing of intimate images.

• Targeted Abuse: Criminal laws in EU nations, such as Germany’s NetzDG, specifically target harmful content and hate crimes, holding users accountable for abusive behavior.

• Platform Responsibility: The Digital Services Act (DSA) increases the responsibility of platforms to remove illegal content, enhancing protection against abusers.

• Online Safety Measures: The EU aims to combat child sexual abuse and grooming, with rules encouraging platforms to detect, report, and remove such material.

Victims can report abuse to platforms and national authorities, which can lead to legal action, removal of content, and penalties for the abusers.

While some of that does not apply to you, You have been asked to stop with your abuse and manipulation, and you have failed to do so. That constitutes

Cyber harassment is the use of digital technology—such as social media, email, or messaging apps—to intentionally harass, threaten, or cause emotional distress to someone. It involves repeated, unwelcome behavior, including bullying, sharing private information (doxxing), or harassment, which can carry severe emotional and sometimes legal consequences for the target.

Usage Examples of Cyber Harassment

• Sending Abusive Messages: Repeatedly sending, posting, or sharing harmful, threatening, or obscene content via text or email.

• Doxxing/Sharing Private Info

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  Publicly releasing sensitive information (like home addresses or personal photos) without consent to cause humiliation or fear.

• Impersonation/Fake Accounts: Creating fake accounts to bully or damage an individual’s reputation.

• Cyber-Mob Attacks (Dogpiling): Coordinating groups to spam, attack, or shame a target online.

• Trolling/Harassment: Posting inflammatory, hateful, or derogatory comments, often seen in gaming or social media, based on appearance or personal details.

Synonyms and Related Terms

• Cyberbullying: Typically used when children or teenagers are involved, though it involves similar behaviors.

• Cyberstalking: A more extreme form often involving threats of harm, stalking behaviors, and surveillance.

• Online Harassment/Abuse: General terms for unwanted, malicious digital interaction.

• Trolling: Deliberate provocation.

• Doxxing/Doxing: Maliciously revealing private information

[Tessa_Springfield]

@Akkar_Kardashev

Well then we are both guilty, except we’re not, and I’m not in Europe anyway.

Nice try but nah babe.

Then stop pretending you are, by using terms not of whatever culture/nationality you’re going to pretend to be part of now.

The key difference between you and I, on this thread, I have Responded to your abuse. i did not start it. I have told you to stop. You have refused.

You are a dishonest person, through and through. You did not engage this topic in good faith, and you have spent several hours working very hard to derail it and abuse me. I have demanded that you cease these actions. You have refused.

Normally, I am just fine with back and forth banter. I have shown this to be true so many times. Between your abuse, and CCP employees imposing, quite frankly, annoying restrictions on my ability to properly respond, I am out of patience today with your antics.

Stop, or I will take action

[Tessa_Springfield]

@Akkar_Kardashev

This you?

https://www.pcgamer.com/eve-online-scam-olivia/

reads like you.

More slander and conspiracy theories, after I have demanded that you cease your abuse. You just can’t stop yourself, can you

[ISD_Buldath]

This thread cannot be redeemed. Topic Closed.

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