What’s even the point of security status if it can be effortless recovered.
This Osmon Queen guy for years has spent thousands of hours every day just sitting at the dodixie station suicide ganking people.
All game mechanics seems designed to protect him and encourage this absolutely miserable gameplay.
Any threat to him, Instant dock up.
Activate kill right, Instant dock up.
Neutral hauler scoops the loot drops, Instant dock up.
There is just no counter play to this.
Suicide ganking needs some kind of limiting factor or way we can counter play stuff like this.
At the very least activating a kill right on someone should trigger the 60 seconds aggression counter so they cant just immediately dock up or gate jump to evade.
Personally I would like to see suicide ganking loot drop rate reduced to 0% complete destruction of both the person being ganked and the person doing the ganking. It still a weapon in the deck to be used when someone absolutely needs to die but this current state of press F1 triple your money needs to stop.
Suicide ganks of all kinds in high sec have become a cancer. They existed before in niche circumstances but now there is no penalty, challenge or counterplay to doing so. I think the entire mechanic is egregiously abused and has to be reformed.
if you would use game mechanics, then you never could get ganked from a solo dude ! its nearly impossible !
thats wrong ! there is counterplay to ganking its called “beeing smart”
if syou dont want to take the risk of ganking then move out of highsec and you dont get ganked anymore !
it has a lot of limited factors…. start inform you and you will lern all of them
no, why should this happen ? activating a killright means your getting suspect ! and a suspect timer does not mean you did any agressive action → no combat timer
and why ? because eve is a PvP game and ganking is a part of it means you have all rights to gank ppl ! you only have 2 options →
a) all PvP has a 0 % loot drop chance
b) all PvP has the loot drop chance we all known at 50%
no, you just dont know how to fit ships, load your cargo and/or move through HS ! if you would lern game mechanics you could avoid nearly 99,9% ganks !
its just a lie you tell ppl because YOU are the victim
no they are not youre just dont know about the mechanics and you dont want to know
this number is extremly small you can find such numbers because CCP has done the calculation for you
and btw …. if ganking would kill CCP´s ISK income then they would have stopped it ! its just a logical thing if you want to make profit and as we all know they didnt ban ganking so they dont lose money
Maybe lets start with the basics? What are you doing in what ship to get ganked?
As there are many things to learn…i suggest we start with insta dock and undock?
Also you do know that you could dock at a station from any other angle than docking from gate to station, right?
The information is out there…people are even doing tutorial for guys like you:
This proves that you have much to learn in terms of mechanics…this is no docking or undocking situation in Dodixie. This is a gate gank in Uedama. Completely different situation, different mechanics and of course then different approaches needed…
Please read your thread starting from above with the first post. The whole thread you were discussing a specific ganking situation. Undocking in Dodixie. Then when when we start to discuss this, you suddenly change the topic to a different situation.
I asked what you did to get ganked at docking in Dodixie and not somewhere else. Somewhere else is a different discussion for a different thread. And another gank beyond those a new thread as well. Different mechanics apply. For you this seems to be not obvious yet, so i understand your confusion and your not understanding. It is so much different that it really comes down to you switching the topic in the middle of the discussion.
At some point you have to eccept that this how New Eden work rules always in favor of people who know how to play them and gankers just doing what mechanics allow, You can spend all day wish there was some counter-play or kill right mean something, but been like this for years CCP clearly see it part of sandbox experience that not going to shift no matter how many people get frustrated, don’t know if It’s not fair or not balanced but that’s EVE you adapt move differently or shrug it off and keep flying. Complaining doesn’t change anything, it just reminds you that some people make their fun ruining someone else’s day. Don’t let your day be ruin
Why just accept it is how it is and it will never be changed.
Its a game, everything and anything can be changed. Lots of things have been changed over the years.
Why not want gameplay to be improved.
Its a simple consideration do you think the game is made better or worse by a handful of thrashers/catalysts/tornado’s sitting on a gate or station instant killing people
I never said remove all ganking just remove some of the incentive.
If people want to suicide gank they can, just not for effortless 0 skill income.
“Personally I would like to see suicide ganking loot drop rate reduced to 0% complete destruction of both the person being ganked and the person doing the ganking. It still a weapon in the deck to be used when someone absolutely needs to die but this current state of press F1 triple your money needs to stop.”
but it is NOT effortless ….. you just dont see it ! and yes, some ganking styles need less effort but you dont see through ganking !
and i say → you cant do this because CCP dont see ganking ! they see it quite simple at what it realy is → PvP ! and why should CCP be against PvP in their own PvP game ? oO
btw → 0 loot would kill ganking because it does not makes profit anymore !
its called “beeing smart”
