18.04 Release - General Feedback

Dear Sir, thats wrong on so many points…

Thats wrong. My original argument was “Someone that rich should have the experience and tools to avoid such ganks.”. Someone who loses a ship with more than a billion ISK in cargo does not receive any mercy because the loss is - for the most part - his own fault. I know enough people who ship billions of ISK from A to B in EVE and they do not get ganked at a scale that it would be in any way a significant threat to their gameplay. Do clever decisions and you mostly keep your stuff. You can, of course, be very unlucky despite all effort to minimize the risk and just meet the wrong guys at the wrong time at the wrong place and die because they simply want you to die and don’t care about the effort to gank you, yes. But that happens to everyone in EVE from time to time and is not even worth debating. But if you lose ships to that on a regular basis, you clearly do something very wrong and that has nothing to do with eHP on the ships but greed and sloth.

At first, that is a claim. Nothing more. The economy would just adapt and some prices for goods that are harder to ship would go up. No problem with that on my part. I see absolute zero evidence for it being absolutrly desastrous for anyone if you couldn’t buy everything for the absolute cheapes price in Jita. Not that it would matter, because as said above, if you really really want, you actually CAN transport many billion ISK in these ships without being ganked every day. Just do it right and don’t complain if you can’t go through ganking hotspots on the shortes route with just “warp to gate” while having the majority of your investments in that ship and a loss would severely cripple your gameplay. Thats just a stupid decision, so don’t do it.

Debatable. No one ‘needs’ to do anything. You can of course do it, but don’t complain if that goes wrong at some point. Someone who accepts a courier contract with many hundred million collateral for a few million reward is just stupid. Ignore these contracts. Don’t risk your ships hauling other ppls ■■■■ around for laughable profits. That also goes for your own trading: If you need to buy stuff for many many Billion ISK to ship that to another station along a ganking-route just to make “decent isk/hr” you should just consider to stop that. Ist pure nonsense, but in my opinion that is not your real intention of the complaint. You like to do it, because you can just "buy, undock, set destination, and the ship flies afk or with absolute minimal effort (warpto next gate…). That what I said above. Greed and Sloth, no mercy. There are ways to make way more than “decent isk/hr” with DSTs or Freighters, just not semi-afk, but with way higher profit margins.

I don’t move the goals, I aim for balance. If a group of ppl put the efforts together to set up a fleet, find a target, invest in their ganking ships and correctly execute their strat, they should have a fair chance to get the kill. It should not be too easy, but coordinated work should have a reward. Which means I am totally okay if enough Gankers can wreck any DST or freighter, I just want to know which number he would find adequate. All this ISK/ehp-Ganking-Costs are just stupid, because that refers only to what I said above: Its calculated for an absolutely helpless target moving semi-afk among the wolves. Just don’t be that target.

Last but not least: We seem to have absolutely different views on hauling stuff, how it is done professionally and which options the hauler has (and should use!) to counterplay the group-efforts of the gankers. If you insist that it “has to be possible to move a billion ISK in a DST solo from Amarr to Jita by just moving from Gate-to-Gate”, well then I fear we will never find a common ground.

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Fixed an issue with the Neocom that caused “Selected Items” to show duplicates.
— Really? :smiley:

Hi CCP,
This last patch has definitely convinced me that there are better ways to spend my time and money. I’ll try in a few years again if you are still around. 2 paying accounts less.
I have been playing this game since 2006 and invested time and money just to see most of it become worthless. The game is now just boring and lacks content.

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Bye !

:red_circle: The chat servers have an aneurysm yet again. These Amazon services sure are great.

I know I am going to get flamed for this but I don’t care. The trigs are way too powerful, I get most people have all these super ships just sitting around but for noobs and those of us who have been gone for 10 years the trigs are like way over powered.
Mining in high sec space like the intro mission tells you get killed easily. This is supposed to be …how exactly?
After messing around and looking at builds thought we would try a base trig anon, level 1. Instantly killed a fleetmate in a frigate. I could tank them for a while in my ferrox but with how fast they move couldn’t hit them.
I get it, we are noobs, or as in my case not used to this, but come on, level 1 and I couldn’t even take out before they do their innsta warp silliness and then I couldn’t hit. I get to experienced players that have spare orcas to mine with this is all easy, but the lower level stuff for noobs is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much.
I don’t much see the point in paying for something that we just cant use.

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Yup, that Trig crap is definitely overpowered for the average High Sec Citizen.

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I wonder why :red_circle: stops counting when it reaches 7 “new” items. and shows 7+.
why not 9?
How am I supposed to know how many items beyond 7 I’ve just dragged in?
It’s very upsetting and if CCP doesn’t solve this terrible issue I think I’m gonna rage quit soon.

I see you opted to go with a poverty fit for this year’s anniversary, even given all of the DDOS issues and recent nerfs. Way to give people something to login for.

Also, please fire whoever on the art team made these XVII skins, they’re awful. Thanks.

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CCP in 2016: We’re removing the in-game browser because we don’t want to support third party software.
CCP in 2018: We’re switching the entire chat system over to using jabber/xmpp protocols because it’s a cool third party software.

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The list just gets longer:
Annoying red dots that serve no useful purpose. Red is warning? i know whats in each container as i moved them there…
Chat channels showing different people in system (Local), this has been going on for nearly a year. Still unable to right click and add people to a player chat channel . I’m still waiting on 2 submitted reports from over a year ago to fix.
Annoying rings round acceleration gates along with square box round debris in space why? Bad for game visuals.
There was a time no one was in BS until incursions , sleepers, drifters and trigs arrived, that forced players back into these BS. all to have resists stripped away along with asset values etc. With the threat of greater destruction form Trigs in forthcoming updates coming why would you do this?

Error sound every time you put something up for sale that automatically goes one digit higher. Why?

So many people have left this game, that was great for single or groups of people to play. I have seen changes after changes that have wiped out values of assets and hard grind to achieve. It’s no wonder newcomers give up and leave as-well.

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yup -mobile depot spamming is getting really annoying. I was buying stuff in a starter system. Outside station was 20-30 mobile depots with long chinese writing.
What impression gives that to a new player undocking for the first time…

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Amen to the different people shown in local thing, anyone with 2 or more toons in the same system can see that for themselves. 25 months and counting!

Square box round debris in space? Oh, you mean like the space crap that’s near our cameras? That’s to show motion, I think. If you start moving your ship up, down, left, right, the debris moves in the opposite direction to suggest motion? It’s subtle, but it does work (sometimes lets you know if you accidentally double-clicked, too! can be a lifesaver before you drift out of range of logi in an incursion site, say).

Well said about increasing the trig threat and then decreasing all our resists. They balance for nothing but PVP but then forget to rebalance the PVE in game, it seems. “Why would you do this?” indeeeeed… at what cost destruction.

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really? attack battlecruisers? large guns vs frigs and destroyers? And why not allowed all t2 BC?

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ya other then the login crap i will pass on this event like all others and most of this junk will likely end up trashed like the uselss crap from the other login bit this is Not a phone game and i don’t need to see oh you have a 14 day skin or some other crap i would see on a fb game

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as usual, instead of adding real updates, real content, and real improvements to the game, they are busy 'tweaking stats" on a 20 year old game like that is producing content.

you don’t improve a game by removing content, you add content to improve it, but ccp has proven their incompetence time and time again.

hire real programmers, and add real updates and improvements to the game, or accept that u have no idea what your doing anymore, and just flat out stop updating the game. because that’s better than you trying to squeeze pennies out of it and ruining the experience for everyone and we quit anyway. You would have more people playing right now if u never did your money grabs.

everything you do is based off of plex and how u can harvest more of it from your ‘numbers of players’ and that is why you are failing. we don’t serve u, u serve us, serving us is how you get your precious pennies. Real content and updates please, or just stop.

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Is it correct that u can only use 1 standing booster at a time or is this maybe a bug as with the old one vould have both at the same time

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Last time when there was 2 different types of standing boosters available, I did them both and the bonus effects didn’t stack, only the stats of the higher level standing booster was implemented.

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Can I have your stuff !!!