Have you seen the walls of text that you wrote out of your rear end?
Anyway, you sound really jealous, I feel sorry you missed the train on Alibaba. Enjoy your bitcoin bubble, I’ll stick with the Chinese version of Ebay, gold and Swiss Francs.
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It’s funny how you’re the one who apparently desperately tries to get my attention, how you’re the one who thinks i care about your drivel, yet i’m the one who is jealous. okay, baby, whatever makes you feel better. i suggest you seek professional help, assuming you can afford it. i don’t care. vOv
have a nice day. 
I don’t know about old players but I can give you the point of view of a new player. After all people goes to other games, find new interest, it’s normal and if a game wants to keep it’s population to a certain level it has to attract new players.
I started to play EVE Online about a week ago. The game looks interesting and I think I could play it for a couple of months if not years. But I’m already hitting the “Omega wall” with everything I’m trying to do. Upgrade my ship, use a more advanced module…
When I look how to get an Omega status I see that I have to pay a 15$ monthly subscription. Really??
This kind of revenue model worked 10 years ago, not today. I would pay a 40$ flat fee to play this game or I would buy cosmetic items to support the game if it would be totally free. But why would I pay 15$ each month to play a 13 years old game?
Now I feel I wasted some time, bandwidth and electricity on a so-called free game that has so many restrictions that it is in reality just a demo.
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k. bye then.
ohohoh, forgot: can i have your stuffs please? it’s tradition to give the stuff to the first who asks! 
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It makes me wonder what people think is really happening with “free” games. The games have to have enough currency sinks to fund themselves. Standard game pricing has been around $60 for the past 20 years. How long does such a game tend to hold a player’s interest? 1 or 2 months? $60 in EVE would be 4 months worth of Omega time. The idea of a “free” game is an inherent lie. Somebody’s getting paid for a game, somehow. So what are the most “legitimate” paths for someone to pay for what they are consuming? Sub is most obvious. $ for SP might actually be reasonable if there was no sub (say a fixed $ amount to unlock branches of the skill tree), reasonable but unpalatable. $ for cosmetics are reasonable, but I don’t think it’s reasonable to fund a game that way because it incentivizes a dev team to ONLY focus on ways to sell more cosmetics. $ upfront is acceptable for short term games, but EVE players tend to play for years. f2p is tricky. Quality in f2p is essentially nonexistent, mostly because they just end up being bait to play slot machines. Subscription really seems to me like it’s the most legitimate financial model for a game like EVE, even if it is somewhat unfashionable right now.
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too many 60 bucks games have content for a few hours only. i find it amazing how people can be funding this ■■■■■■■■.
I’m well aware of that. I’ve pretty much stopped funding $60 gaming, myself (mostly because I’m starting to hate gaming culture, but partly because of the Russian roulette nature of that cash outlay.) I was being optimistic though. Some games are famous for lots of play time, but even the Bethesda games I have a hard time imagining the typical player sticking with them for longer than 2 or 3 months. Regardless, I doubt that would be a good model for EVE, it would scare away a lot of players, and the remaining players wouldn’t fund the game.
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There are people who spend literally thousands of dollars a month on this game when the Eve online casinos were thing I knew people who would gamble 50 60 70 billion a night just throwing it away your $15 a month is nothing. If you’re not willing to pay $15 a month for the continued support and updates that CCP pump out then you don’t know the worth of a modern-day video game or you just don’t appreciate it so that being said I won’t say goodbye but best of luck
The pay per update model has done little to retain players in Elite Dangerous.
That said, their lack of content is probably worse.
And THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED THE PLEX PRICE MUST INCREASE! We need to get rid of these filthy gallenteans leechers who keep telling others about propaganda driven ideas of fake freedom how to grind towards a sub instead of being proper citizens enjoying and playing the game! They keep spreading their toxic thoughts of homosexuality how this game isn’t worth playing among our children new players and we MUST FIGHT THEM UNTIL THERE IS NOT ONE OF THEM LEFT!
Let us fight for our culture game, to end the existence of unnatural behaviour leechers once and for all!
i can do better, but got no coffee. 
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The difference is when WoW declines from 11 million to 6 million they still…have millions of players.
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I just came back after a 2 year break. Im actually happy there aren’t so many people running around. I can actually do things now that don’t involve PvP.
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That’s irrelevant to the point he’s making.
Try and tell them that.
Fast forward to when the game going tits-up is a much closer reality than it is now. Fully grown mangina fanboys still going at it.
And then when there’s nothing left to defend.
And then me, laughing at why i even tried explaining with my credibility as a long-time gamer who’s seen games come and gone (some very prematurely) for various reasons. What else can i do?
wow could lose 99% of its player base in still have more active players than eveonline
Well I see that this thread, as the o p, made a ton of progress. That was my sarcastic face. Anyway thank those of you who seriously you responded with serious inquiry and intellectual commentary I’m going to step out of this now you all have a great weekend. I’ll be logging in for the first time in 2 years so I’m going to have fun regardless.
Learn to maths?
While EVE certainly isn’t the size of WoW, it’s not that tiny.
It’s about 8-10% the player base of WoW.
Reminds me of the old saying:
When an EVE player leaves for WoW, in both games the average IQ increases.
Get
a
job.
i have a low effort, low hours job and i trade cryptocoins. on some days i get to post more, on others less. you’re just envious. 
One million isk into the piggybank.